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LED Flash light ..Pulsed LED, underdamped oscillations

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i'm not so sure , about it using too much power, look at figure 4
supply current Vs. supply Voltage ..
it uses less than 0.5 mA at 20 V ..
 
how about the voltage acros the IC?

If you run an 2V LED on 5V suply the 3V has to go somevare.If the LED consumes 20mA in that case 90mW wob be waisted in heat.

This is a transistor (same as having a resistor) it will waste as heat.Its not PWM.
 
but you could turn it on and off with PWM.. No ???
therefore not using full power with each PWM pulse ..
 
Hi Willi,
Figure 4 shows the IC's supply current with only a 15uA load current. You won't see an LED that has only 15uA through it. :cry:

A constant current source is an automatically variable resistor in series with the load. It is used to keep the current constant through an LED as a load that is continuously turned on, when its power supply voltage is changing.

If you are using PWM, it can keep the LED's brightness constant if the supply voltage changes, then you won't need a constant current source that wastes power.

I don't think your shaker makes enough power for an LED flashlight. :(
Maybe now you are talking about using a low PWM duty-cycle so the average current is low. Low average current in an LED results in dim brightness. :(
Maybe you are talking about blinking the LED so it uses less power. A blinking LED makes a lousy flashlight. :(
I made some, they are an ultra-bright LED that blinks with five 100mA pulses about 20ms each in duration, at about 10Hz, with a 1 second pause in beween. Because they blink very brightly, they attract a lot of attention. Because they are off most of the time, their battery lasts a very long time. I can shine one on the ground at night to see where to walk, but the blinking and pauses aren't good for a flashlight. :(

My ultra-bright chaser projects make pretty good flashlights, when their PWM is turned up to max duty-cycle and their speed is also max so they are spinning like mad. But then they draw lots of current, about the same current as a single LED, and require probably much more power than your shaker can supply. :(
 
just one more thing
if when i shake it with a one ohm resistor connected across just the coils ,and the scope says that i am getting around a volt p-p output ...
1/1 = 1A so where is the available current going when i hook it up to the full wave bridge ???
i should get at least 250 mA fron that ?
 
nevermind i just figured it out..
the scope is giving instantanious values..
BUT the the bursts of current arent close enough together to average out to anywhere near their instantainious values...
 
If the shaker's resistance is low enough then a filter capacitor charged by the full wave bridge will charge to the peak voltage of the output of the bridge, just like with a mains transformer supply. :lol:
 
i have a LOT of 18 awg single strand coil wire 0.040 '' ...
i was using a thinner wire ..
the 18 awg is only 6.385 ohms per 1000 feet..
 
Have you tried connecting an ultra-bright LED in parallel with a filter cap to the output of the bridge rectifier on your shaker to see if it works?
 
not at 10Hz at 100Hz zo 1Khz.

And an 1 Ohm sesistor that ADC meshures voltage over it so it can meshure the curent trugh the LED and ajust the PWM.
 
Oh yeah it works , i used the white LED , approx 3V @ 10 -20 mA ..
but it didnt stay lit very long..
 
Someone Electro said:
what did work?

The constant curent surce?
the shaker connected to a cap connected to the LED..
i did not built the constant current source..
yet..
 
If you shake it really hard, does your shaker generator produce enough power to burn-out the LED?
If not, then use a 10F super-capacitor and let your shaker charge it for a few hours or days. Then when you let it discharge into the LED you will certainly need a current-limiting resistor, and you can watch the LED dim as the super-capacitor discharges. :lol:
 
Since i also have a bunch 22 awg & 18 awg wire i can wind up another set of coils pretty easily..
although 20 awg would be perfect i dont have any..
 
the center column is the resistance /1000 Feet.
the far right column is the diameter..
 

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To answer your question no it didnt..
i tried it with a superbrite Blue LED connected in the full wave bridge config.
and in the full wave config. listed earlier
i also connected said blue LED directly across the coil output, still works :( lol
so i suppose 23 ohms is too high..??
 
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