Its a shame we are not able to have a civil chat on subjects like ALTERNATIVE energy, without people getting all defensive etc. I dont believe in so called free energy, but I have an interest in alternative systems such as running my micro board on thermal electric or solar.
And if you take the term free energy literally then I can prove it exists, I have read many times of people in the uk growing certain plants. On many occasions these people place a wire (apparently) across there meter to bypass it! so in literal terms yes it definitely does exist.
In other ways it depends on what your talking about, I have run some good projects from thermal electric generators, and have a couple of very small solar panels that run various bits. I also use TEG to keep my aquarium Led's cool by running a 18mA computer fan on a heat sink, this is powered from the heat from the Leds once they start to get too hot.
Again I class this as free energy, but amplifying energy and creating energy from nothing is free lunch. To me free energy is energy you dont pay for, alternative energy is stuff like TEG and solar but I also class as free. Over unity and getting more out than in I class as wishful thinking. On the other side of things I can also understand why some think it exists, I saw a video on you tube a few months ago that made me understand some of the confusion. The experiment involved a home made motor that the guy called a generator, it worked and spun round fast, the way he had the meters set up showed 12 volts going in and 40volts at another point. Now a few years ago I would of thought like him and assumed wow free energy!!! But the motor was not under load and was being driven by starship coils with pwm, what he obviously didnt understand was he was measuring the inductive spike! So it looked like he was getting free 28V from somewhere, of course had he measured the Watts etc then he would have seen what was going on.
Alot of the comments were from people with very limited electrical knowledge, and they all were saying it was proof etc. So in some cases I can see why people get confused, same with a joule thief circuit because unless you know it appears your getting more out than putting in, you see comments under the vids like wow!!! see that battery was 0.7V and its powering a 3.3V Led!!!! so the circuit is making the extra voltage, its only when you delve a little deeper you understand its simply converting one version of energy (current) into another version (Volts), and in fact there is a net loss (a price to be paid if you like).
But what irritates me is those that you know are peddling rubbish and they know they are! There is a 'generator' for sale that costs a fortune, but its Guaranteed to save you fuel with HHO. Now even if it was true (we know its not), paying $4,000 for a 'generator' is hardly free in anyone's book lol.
BUT RC3PO why get so upset and abusive? By all means talk about alternative fuel sources and energy, try out stuff its fun. But keep it civil and bare in mind there is no such thing as a free lunch!
Alternative and slightly wacky ways of powering things is great and I love it, but you cant alter physics. If there was even a small chance it could be done then it would have been, energy companies would pay staggering amounts to generate free energy to sell on.
If you want lets have a civil and respectful discussion on alternative forms, but lets not start thinking there is someway to get more out than you put in.
LG
And my favorite alternative form is steam! or to be precise sterling engines, they are a work of art! Very clever engineering considering no computers to design stuff back then.
And if you take the term free energy literally then I can prove it exists, I have read many times of people in the uk growing certain plants. On many occasions these people place a wire (apparently) across there meter to bypass it! so in literal terms yes it definitely does exist.
In other ways it depends on what your talking about, I have run some good projects from thermal electric generators, and have a couple of very small solar panels that run various bits. I also use TEG to keep my aquarium Led's cool by running a 18mA computer fan on a heat sink, this is powered from the heat from the Leds once they start to get too hot.
Again I class this as free energy, but amplifying energy and creating energy from nothing is free lunch. To me free energy is energy you dont pay for, alternative energy is stuff like TEG and solar but I also class as free. Over unity and getting more out than in I class as wishful thinking. On the other side of things I can also understand why some think it exists, I saw a video on you tube a few months ago that made me understand some of the confusion. The experiment involved a home made motor that the guy called a generator, it worked and spun round fast, the way he had the meters set up showed 12 volts going in and 40volts at another point. Now a few years ago I would of thought like him and assumed wow free energy!!! But the motor was not under load and was being driven by starship coils with pwm, what he obviously didnt understand was he was measuring the inductive spike! So it looked like he was getting free 28V from somewhere, of course had he measured the Watts etc then he would have seen what was going on.
Alot of the comments were from people with very limited electrical knowledge, and they all were saying it was proof etc. So in some cases I can see why people get confused, same with a joule thief circuit because unless you know it appears your getting more out than putting in, you see comments under the vids like wow!!! see that battery was 0.7V and its powering a 3.3V Led!!!! so the circuit is making the extra voltage, its only when you delve a little deeper you understand its simply converting one version of energy (current) into another version (Volts), and in fact there is a net loss (a price to be paid if you like).
But what irritates me is those that you know are peddling rubbish and they know they are! There is a 'generator' for sale that costs a fortune, but its Guaranteed to save you fuel with HHO. Now even if it was true (we know its not), paying $4,000 for a 'generator' is hardly free in anyone's book lol.
BUT RC3PO why get so upset and abusive? By all means talk about alternative fuel sources and energy, try out stuff its fun. But keep it civil and bare in mind there is no such thing as a free lunch!
Alternative and slightly wacky ways of powering things is great and I love it, but you cant alter physics. If there was even a small chance it could be done then it would have been, energy companies would pay staggering amounts to generate free energy to sell on.
If you want lets have a civil and respectful discussion on alternative forms, but lets not start thinking there is someway to get more out than you put in.
LG
And my favorite alternative form is steam! or to be precise sterling engines, they are a work of art! Very clever engineering considering no computers to design stuff back then.