1. Welcome to our site! Electro Tech is an online community (with over 170,000 members) who enjoy talking about and building electronic circuits, projects and gadgets. To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.
    Dismiss Notice

Is Electrophobia on it's way?

Discussion in 'Members Lounge' started by Pommie, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Pommie

    Pommie Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    10,024
    Likes:
    317
    Location:
    Brisbane Australia
    With the recent arrest of a suspected terrorist here in Australia (see this article), will being an electronics hobbyist become a risky business? I've recently been researching guidance systems (compasses, gyros, 3D cosine matrix etc.) as I'm very interested in self guided drones. At a guess, I would say that I have all the electronics required to build a guided missile, in fact, anyone into fpv drones would have the same. This could very easily be mistaken by the authorities as terrorist research. I would hope that something more than research has to be in evidence before a prosecution could go ahead. Whilst this may seem a little paranoid, chemistry hobbyist have had this problem for many years and frequently get visited by police to check for drugs/explosives etc.

    Am I over thinking this?

    Mike.
     
  2. EvilGenius

    EvilGenius Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    323
    Likes:
    6
    Location:
    Florida
    Hi Mike
    No I don't think you are over paranoid. I feel the same.
    I have read many articles on how google keeps track of all the key searches and could/would possibly put someone on the list by sharing it with government entities or allow them access (willingly or unwillingly)! Same with what someone may say casually or seriously on Facebook.
    EG
     
  3. JonSea

    JonSea Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2012
    Messages:
    1,119
    Likes:
    90
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    I used to worry about a string of little packages from Chinese with some from India (Zenni Optical - highly recommended) and other countries. It's pretty routine these days, but 5 or more years ago, it wasn't a common thing.
     
  4. dave

    Dave New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 1997
    Messages:
    -
    Likes:
    0


     
  5. spec

    spec Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    Messages:
    5,828
    Likes:
    709
    Location:
    Somerset UK GMT

    Hi Pommie,

    I don't see any connection between your fears for electronics practitioners and the video. The fellow was arrested for helping the Islamist State rather than being involved in electronics per se.

    But I know what you are driving at- anyone with a soldering iron and a pair of wire cutters can be suspect, but the thing is that there are so many people involved in the electrical, electronic, engineering, and chemical areas that a fair proportion of the population would be under suspicion for one reason or another.

    I have been closely interrogated at airports- In one instance I had a calculator without a battery in it (because the calculator turned on itself in the case). I had to fit the battery and show that the calculator functioned as a calculator. This was just after a bombing incident.

    At one time, I used to carry a pretty comprehensive tool kit when going on holiday (inevitably your hotel room needs something fixing/adjusting, and getting maintenance can take a day or so in some hotels), but that is not possible now.

    I remember a carpet layer who was flying to Edinburgh from Heathrow to fit a big hotel- he had all his carpet fitting tools confiscated and was not totally pleased.

    spec
     
  6. Little Ghostman

    Little Ghostman Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    3,702
    Likes:
    426
    Location:
    SCOTLAND
    Hi Mike

    I did some posts ages ago on a self flying and guiding drone I built for a school project. You helped with some of the maths for the guidance, in the end instead of a square grid system, I went for a honeycomb grid.

    On the school system I have all 16GB of stuff I collected for the project, I will dig out what I can. The drone worked great but flight time was limited. I also looked into a model aircraft engine (glow fuel) to power electric motors. This was going to be for the MKII Version, in the end I went with a semi self guiding model aircraft.

    We are likely to get new laws here in the UK for drones, this will kill off alot of them....... Its stopped me working on the new one and the old one ran out of power at 800 feet.......... Top of the MKII list is a power sensor and software to land when power is low, I would like to avoid super fast landing in future :D.
     
  7. tcmtech

    tcmtech Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2009
    Messages:
    6,659
    Likes:
    429
    Location:
    Sawyer, North Dakota, USA
    I don't see it as a phobia of any particular device or system so much as gross ignorance of things backed by irrational paranoia of what someone doesn't understand about how things they fear work being the problem.

    World wide, society as a whole is already overwhelmed with idiots and halfwits who are scared to death of things now because they either simply don't understand the rational reality of what something actually is or how it works or does not work or can't work even if they tried to force it to on purpose.

    How many threads have we seen just on this forum from fools who are worried their 'smart meter' that puts out a multi milliwatt signal (mostly through the hardwired power lines at that) for a second or two every few tens of minutes to 1 - 2 times a day is going to give them RF radiation poisoning yet have zero issue with holding their cell phones that do produce multi watt RF signals to their heads for hours a day?

    Or that their 'smart meter' is spying on them somehow despite being a very application specific and simple data capture and logging system that looks at two or three hardwired analog inputs in and only in the meter unit itself yet don't have a problem with their cell phone that has live video, audio, GPS, and other active data sensing, monitoring, collecting and logging systems running every second it's turned on? :banghead:
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2017
  8. GromTag

    GromTag Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    Messages:
    303
    Likes:
    41
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Given with recent events, I think there's an App for that.....
     
  9. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    6,778
    Likes:
    281
    Location:
    Cleveland, Ohio USA
    Electronics was a hobby as well as putting beanies and weenies on the table for over 40 years. I also have expressed an interest in drones, so what? Another hobby I really enjoy is the shooting sports including hand loading my own ammunition and black powder shooting. So what? In addition to a few electronic hobby forums I am also active in a few shooting forums where we discuss, dare I say guns? I sure as hell am not about to get paranoid about any of my hobbies.

    Ron
     
  10. Little Ghostman

    Little Ghostman Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    3,702
    Likes:
    426
    Location:
    SCOTLAND
    You live in the land of the free, I live in the land where making a simple firework gets you 5 years, owning Nitric acid over 3% gets you two years. And here in Scotland an air rifle now needs a firearms certificate, which makes it harder to get than it does to get a shotgun! We have a shotgun for pest control, but was refused a firearms license for a low powered air rifle. I do have 68% nitric acid and Oxalic acid etc, but my mum kindly set up a LTD (incorporated company), this allows us to have it. But we have to do 'research' etc and pay pointless tax on what I consider hobbies.....
     
  11. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member Most Helpful Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    6,778
    Likes:
    281
    Location:
    Cleveland, Ohio USA
    I know LG and I feel bad for those who can't own a firearm. Even here in the US we have some very restrictive states and fortunately I do not live in any of them, New York and California come to mind with others. I think in New York you get 5 years if you even think about a gun. :)

    Ron
     

Share This Page