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Fox News taken in by Steorn

Discussion in 'Alternative Energy' started by Oznog, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. Oznog

    Oznog Active Member

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    fox news = awesome!
     
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    We are all waiting to hear still. This stuff is so great the experts are rushing to it. On boats are something.
     
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    They have picked 12 experts...


    http://pesn.com/2006/11/11/9500432_Steorn_jury_selection/
     
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    Steorn is an obvious fraud, most clearly because their claims are impossible. On other fronts, claiming scientists have verified it when no scientists can be found is also a problem. Never having made a product or having shown anyone a working model is a problem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn

    They're a company which promised to make a microgenerator and also did some sort of forensic work. They failed to file accounting reports, which are a strict legal requirement, for the last 2 yrs. This tends to imply the country is not only down the tubes but are into accounting fraud.

    They're playing a game. They could demo a model in a few days to the right people. Instead, they set up this elaborate confirmation process in order to make themselves look confident in their discovery while delaying the actual confirmation by dragging along the actual steps.

    The unique part is having the balls to take out an ad in The Economist to push their scam. That's a new one.
     
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    I think their thing is how long can they run with their 15 seconds of fame.. I hope mine will be next weekend getting that 30+ million lotto check. :)

    You have to give them the record there. Experts in hype.
     
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    Interestingly, the wikipedia article says they are in trouble with Irish (tax?) filing regulations with a deadline of October 2006. Failure to file will mean the the Irish govt takes possession of their assets. anyone know what happened?
     
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    Steorn's Technology on FOX News

    "free magnetic energy from the air" ?

    No ... , not from the air. Either an interference with the Earth's own magnetic field, or extracting energy from the vacuum of space. Yes, the latter exists, in naturally disordered form, but it can be engineered to be "coherred" asymetrically, analogous to the wound spring of a clock-work mechanism under stress, ready to release its energy kinetically. In the case of Steorn, it would be photons "lined up", not disordered, working together to add to a magnetically-induced electric current(Farady et al.), literally potentializing each electron to a higher level than the work done to separate the electrons from their atomic orbits to begin with. Getting something for nothing? In this case, yuppp!! .., just like we get wind power for nothing, except that the wind doesn't always blow, or blow where we want it to, and the capital equipment is costly to buy and breaks down easily (gearboxes etc.). These photons, though, are everywhere on Earth if tapping the Earth's magnetic field, and everywhere in space if using the vacuum energy of space. It's just a matter of engineering, and Steorn may just have done it ... along with a few other companies who are slightly behind due to lack of funding.

    Hal Ade
     
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    Steorn an alleged fraud

    "obvious fraud" - WRONG!!
    "claims are impossible" - very, very, WRONG!!
    "no scientists can be found is also a problem" - a point ..
    "Never having made a product or having shown anyone a working model" - WRONG again!!
    "accounting fraud" - not enough evidence ..
    "They're playing a game" - not enough evidence ..
    "They could demo a model in a few days to the right people" - maybe, maybe not .. They have investors to whom they should have demo'd the goods
    "they set up this elaborate confirmation process in order to make themselves look confident in their discovery while delaying the actual confirmation by dragging along the actual steps" - If they didn't do that, who would believe them, other than a few scientists/engineers who won't let their names be published for fear of their jobs. After all, it's not supposed to be true.

    "their scam" - not enough evidence ...

    Hal Ade
     

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