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Originally Posted by neptune

My video on Automation was about how it has permiated different sectors of society.
Do you know that only Service sector is the only sector remaining that gives majority of employment (85 %) rest of it is Automated. gone are the days when agriculture use to employ most of the people. in my country unfortunately it still does.
Think about it most of the work done by Humans in Service sector does not require intiutive thinking. once a AI is build that avoids physical obstacle and learns that will just start a wildfire in most basic jobs the humans do.

This might be something you find interesting. http://techresearch.intel.com/Projec...ls.aspx?Id=118

Soooo,

How far off is SkyNet?

Us paranoids want to know...

If processing ability continues to advance at it's current rate I'd say within the next thousand years easy. People laugh at this stuff, mainly because the chances of it happening within our own lifespans is laughable, one day (assuming again there are no major scientific or global stability setbacks) it will happen; exactly how it will happen is still way up in the air though! My bet is on there being global events within the next 20-200 years that will massively set back scientific advancement.

The world is filled with stupid sheeple, not even the top 1% of 1% of scientific intellects on this planet have any effect on politics.

Originally Posted by Sceadwian

The world is filled with stupid sheeple, not even the top 1% of 1% of scientific intellects on this planet have any effect on politics.

This is a good thing. A powerful Technocracy would lead to mass human slavery and elimination of excess populations in a generation. Having dumb, vain people in government insures that almost nothing will be done and people will have to fend for themselves as government becomes even less efficient.

Lol, you assume the people that create and/or incubate technology control it! Ask the key creators of the atom bomb what they thought about it's first use. The next bomb won't be nearly so absolute, but it will end up being far more profound, the Internet as a communication medium is already very close, but that's still too easily controlled from governments.

The state of the art technology in communication 10 years ago can be had for anyone in a good technical college.

The daft are in control, and inherently always will be, because the masses will choke down both the extremely stupid and the extremely intelligent to protect themselves.

Originally Posted by Sceadwian

Lol, you assume the people that create and/or incubate technology control it! Ask the key creators of the atom bomb what they thought about it's first use. The next bomb won't be nearly so absolute, but it will end up being far more profound, the Internet as a communication medium is already very close, but that's still too easily controlled from governments.

I guess you misconstrued my comments. Hell yes, the people that create and incubate technology DON'T control it and that is as it should be.

I've heard the Technocrat yearnings before.

http://web.archive.org/web/200104121...gy-of-man.html

Man has also let his population increase to the point where it has become self-destructive. He must not only combat the other elements of the environment in order to survive, but he must battle within his own species to determine which individuals and which groups are to survive. No matter how one tries to rationalize the value of human life, one cannot escape the conclusion that there are just too many human beings on the earth.

They must institute a program of population control which will keep the population within the bounds of the long-range capacity of food, water, minerals and energy supplies. North America is not seriously overburdened with population at present, but it is gradually approaching that condition. The population of North America should not much exceed 200 million. No political party can touch these problems concerning the population, but science can find a ready answer.

Originally Posted by neptune

You Americans have turned into pessimistic people. you both have taken this topic from science into Government policies.

Pragmatic is the word I would use.

I don't think the power of the human mind is static. The evolution of advanced machines will cause a speedup in human evolution in ways we can't possibly understand today. Automation is great until you have to manage hundreds/thousands of different types of machines at a typical large factory. Machines like people don't work forever and require constant maintenance/PMs to keep them in operation.

The Luddites had it wrong, of course. But there was an element of caution in their cause that bears considering.

Current genetic science, for instance, is very, very scary: way more than all others, to my way of thinking.

But, as has been pointed out, advancements in science (and technology as its physical manifestation), always carries risks that are, as often as not, poorly defined.

But never unexploited by those seeking power (read, government).

At any rate, as a generally realistic/optimistic, the human race, despite it's myriad failings, somehow or other has managed to advance over the millennia.

Despite governments.

Science and technology, as the hand maiden of government is inherently evil. as time has shown us.

I personally believe in a benevolent dictatorship, but only so long as I am the benevolent dictator. ALL other forms of government fall short.

But it is what it is.

So, pass me my iPad, please, while I order a Big Mac using OnStar on my way across this magnificent bridge on my way to the IMAX. THIS is the life..

For however long WE (the people of this earth) can keep it.

Just my thoughts.