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Old 31st March 2006, 08:55 PM   (permalink)
Default Just getting Started, please advise A.K.A. I need Help

Hello everyone,
I知 new here, I知 actually interested in robotics programming (mostly software side I mean) as I知 currently undertaking a course that leads to Degree in Software Engineering and thinking of doing my final year project about robotics programming, so since I know almost nothing about robotics and most probably confused about some terms and how they can be related to each other (such as expert systems, AI and how this can be related to robotics) I need some guidance in that particular category, can you recommend a web site or a book to start with? And please don稚 point me at Google coz I've already tired that.


Thank you in advance
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Leper Messiah
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Old 1st April 2006, 02:42 AM   (permalink)
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You tried Google and found nothing? Maybe it was down.
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Old 1st April 2006, 05:00 AM   (permalink)
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visit robotbooks.com
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Old 1st April 2006, 09:50 AM   (permalink)
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no i tried google and results wasnt what i'm looking for
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Old 1st April 2006, 10:07 AM   (permalink)
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tell us then what are you looking for. a robot that you only have to program? or a step by step instruction on how to make one?
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Old 1st April 2006, 10:13 AM   (permalink)
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what i'm looking for is the technology of programming robots, what programming languages and how to implement it in a robot, so i want a beginner guide not on how to build a robot but on robots programming generally (concepts and practically a HOW TO)
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Old 1st April 2006, 10:42 AM   (permalink)
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there is no common language to program robots. robots are costum things so every robot is different. i suugest looking for a book called "robots for dummys" (or something like this if it even exists). and also search google again for robots. look at what other people have made etc. then make yourself a small one and program it to follow a line/light/sound/yourself.
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Old 1st April 2006, 02:57 PM   (permalink)
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what i'm looking for is the technology of programming robots
You might want to check the dictionary. A robot can be really simple to build.

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what programming languages and how to implement it in a robot,
The only thing a robot "understands" is two states, on and off (power, and no power). No matter what robot you build, it applies to every one.

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so i want a beginner guide not on how to build a robot but on robots programming generally (concepts and practically a HOW TO)
It depends on how complex you want your robot to be.

Can you tell me what you intend to have the robot for, because I can't get into the programming with these basic questions that you ask.
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Old 1st April 2006, 04:44 PM   (permalink)
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The only thing mstechca "understands" is his own blather. That's a good thing though, because no one else does.

For beginners, the BASIC stamp is a great way to get into robotics. It uses a variation of the BASIC language, and is very easy and intuitive to learn. There are many websites ( www.parallax.com or www.rentron.com) that have tutorials and ideas for beginners. After that, you can move up to PIC microcontrollers. Nigel Goodwin has great tutorials for their use, or you can use a BASIC compiler to program them.
 
Old 2nd April 2006, 03:15 AM   (permalink)
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The only thing mstechca "understands" is his own blather. That's a good thing though, because no one else does.
Excuse me, but I would APPRECIATE IT if you don't talk about me like that!

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For beginners, the BASIC stamp is a great way to get into robotics. It uses a variation of the BASIC language, and is very easy and intuitive to learn.
Isn't the basic stamp special hardware embedded into the microcontroller that accepts basic commands?

Also, I ask for more information from Leper, because there are some microcontrollers that are better than others, and there may be one that is the best suited for his application.
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Old 2nd April 2006, 03:56 AM   (permalink)
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Isn't the basic stamp special hardware embedded into the microcontroller that accepts basic commands?
LOL.

Dearest Mike,
I (we?) would appreciate it if you wouldnt talk AT ALL! Besides, I wasnt talking, I was typing. :-P
 
Old 2nd April 2006, 04:02 AM   (permalink)
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OK, Im sorry- I'll be nice from now on... Besides, I really DO enjoy reading your, uh, stuff.
 
Old 2nd April 2006, 07:12 AM   (permalink)
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wow wow guys take it easy, we all here to help eachother not to fight lol

as I said earlier i'm still looking for the idea for my final year graduation project, which i would like to do about robotics since you said it's not that complicated to build a robot, and programming it is simple depends on robot's capabilities.

I will take your advice and get a hand on building robots by getting a simple kit and give it a try, any recommendations?
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Old 2nd April 2006, 07:38 AM   (permalink)
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I will take your advice and get a hand on building robots by getting a simple kit and give it a try, any recommendations?
Hiya Leper :shock: (what a name)
Anyway as you don't have your location filled in we don't know where you are in the world but here's a link to a robotics online store http://www.robotstore.com/ . I'm sure you'll find some good pickings there. Now above other people have stated robotics is 1 big area and maybe you should get the pen and paper out and write down just what you want to achieve and do it in steps. There's no use learning to program a robot when you don't have a robot to start with :wink:

Cheers Bryan
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Old 2nd April 2006, 07:51 AM   (permalink)
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Hi bryan1,
thanks for your advice, i'm located in Malaysia if that would help and yes I agree no point of learning or reading how robots works if I dont have one, all i wanna learn is robots basics so later i can combine this knowledge with what i already know in order to bring the idea i have (i have few) to light.
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