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Old 23rd October 2004, 03:19 PM   (permalink)
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if you typed something...i am not seeing it
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Old 23rd October 2004, 04:54 PM   (permalink)
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in the last no this is blank(was a duplicate) but could you say all the information about them(steppers)? all what is written on them...(if this is not mutch trouble)
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Old 23rd October 2004, 06:27 PM   (permalink)
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what kind are your steppers..?
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Old 23rd October 2004, 06:39 PM   (permalink)
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these are Minebea
type 23KM-K379-G1
at the bottom it says
NO T8Y03
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Old 25th October 2004, 04:54 AM   (permalink)
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:cry: Bad news..
i was programming and debugging my only 16F84A and something happened ..
it stopped running.. i was blinking LED's and trying to get the steppers to run on the pic.. the steppers didn't seem to have the power that they had when i was using the PC to drive them..
all of a sudden it just stopped blinking the LED's...tried to reprogram it but all it reads is ones...*sigh*
I did get two other pics when i ordered the 16F84A, but one is the 18F2220 a compleatly different animal , and a 16F874 .
But i am a little hesitant to use the new 40 pin 874 for fear that whatever happened to his little brother would befall him..lol
*sigh*
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Old 25th October 2004, 06:36 AM   (permalink)
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:cry: Bad news..
i was programming and debugging my only 16F84A and something happened ..
it stopped running.. i was blinking LED's and trying to get the steppers to run on the pic.. the steppers didn't seem to have the power that they had when i was using the PC to drive them..
all of a sudden it just stopped blinking the LED's...tried to reprogram it but all it reads is ones...*sigh*
PIC's really take some killing, so you must have done something rather drastic to it! - I presume you were feeding it from 5V?, and have the required capacitors on the regulator IC?.

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I did get two other pics when i ordered the 16F84A, but one is the 18F2220 a compleatly different animal , and a 16F874 .
But i am a little hesitant to use the new 40 pin 874 for fear that whatever happened to his little brother would befall him..lol
*sigh*
Ordering the obselete 16F84 seems a really strange thing to do?, why didn't you order it's modern replacement the 16F628, cheaper chip and a higher spec as well.
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Old 25th October 2004, 01:18 PM   (permalink)
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Ordering the obselete 16F84 seems a really strange thing to do?, why didn't you order it's modern replacement the 16F628, cheaper chip and a higher spec as well.
i did'nt know about it..
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Old 25th October 2004, 01:33 PM   (permalink)
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PIC's really take some killing, so you must have done something rather drastic to it! - I presume you were feeding it from 5V?, and have the required capacitors on the regulator IC?.
yes.. well they were on the other side of this cable..
ya see , i was using the 5v supply from the pc.. and the pc was fine,..it was still running..so .. i just dont know..
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Old 2nd November 2004, 05:23 PM   (permalink)
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http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/e...Doc/39589b.pdf
on the top of page 13..left side
is that backwards?
it says if they are set " reads as 0 "
or left unchanged "reads as 1"???
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Old 4th November 2004, 04:43 AM   (permalink)
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Ok i am back in business..Got my new 628's from microchip yesterday ( in less than a week)..!!
tried programming one .. worked like a charm..so now i have to figure out what happened to the F84A.
Nigel recommended caps close to Vdd & Vss any recomendations on what values.?
I am thinking of supplying the 628 with its own 5v regulator .
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Old 4th November 2004, 07:01 AM   (permalink)
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Ok i am back in business..Got my new 628's from microchip yesterday ( in less than a week)..!!
tried programming one .. worked like a charm..so now i have to figure out what happened to the F84A.
Nigel recommended caps close to Vdd & Vss any recomendations on what values.?
I am thinking of supplying the 628 with its own 5v regulator .
I would suggesting looking at my tutorial boards, they work very reliably, and I would certainly suggest you have a 5V regulator on the board!.
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Old 4th November 2004, 09:59 PM   (permalink)
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this is my current diagram.
the Eagle software didnt have a 16F628 but did have a 16F84A ..
I think that i turned the wheel by hand causing an induced voltage to ruin the last PIC.. hopefully it wont happen again..
Battery 2 is going to be NiMH 1.2 V batteries giving 4.8 Volts hope this is enough to turn the gates on..if not maybe a combination of batteries of different types will work..
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Old 5th November 2004, 04:05 PM   (permalink)
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so what does anyone think ??
will this prevent the motors from frying the new chip.??
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Old 11th November 2004, 01:23 AM   (permalink)
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this design is much better..
i scoped the LM317 output , not a blip to be found..
i think this one is a LOT safer for the PIC..
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Old 13th November 2004, 09:08 AM   (permalink)
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Your schematic shows an external diode in parallel with each PMOS.

This should not be necessary. All PMOS that you get off-the-shelf have an internal body diode inside in this direction already. You can read your spec sheet but usually they are capable of carrying substantial current.

Your schematic lacks a capacitor on the output of the reg. This could cause the reg to oscillate and potentially blow your chip.

You need to put a ceramic cap from Vdd to Vss right at the PIC chip, especially on a power circuit like this. I already had this trouble more than once- nearby power consumers, even though they didn't even draw power out of the reg, were causing the PIC to latch up.
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