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GatorGnet · 3rd June 2009, 05:53 PM

How much memory does a typical 100 line ASM program take up in a PIC? The 16f628A shows 3.5k but is a little overkill on some of our needs. I am looking at the 10F2## for small needs.

Also, does the 10F2## PIC's have a built in internal oscillator?

BuffaloEngineer · 3rd June 2009, 05:59 PM

All in the 10F series have internal oscillators, but be careful - not all the chips in the 10F and 12F series have interrupts. Check the datasheet if you need to use interrupts.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 3rd June 2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorGnet

How much memory does a typical 100 line ASM program take up in a PIC? The 16f628A shows 3.5k but is a little overkill on some of our needs. I am looking at the 10F2## for small needs.

16F and lower PIC's are easy - all instructions are a single word long - so a 100 line program will take LESS than 100 words of memory, as some lines generate no code.

birdman0_o · 3rd June 2009, 07:47 PM

How does 100 words translate into memory size, < 100 bytes?

Thanks,
Mike

edeca · 3rd June 2009, 08:08 PM

For smaller PIC parts, all instructions are 14 bits long. So 100 NOP instructions take up the same space as 100 complex operations involving the stack.

However, some instructions take more than one cycle to run. So instruction "length" in PIC flash memory does not relate to execution speed.

The Wikipedia page PIC microcontroller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia shows the instructions and their binary equivalents once assembled.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 3rd June 2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman0_o

How does 100 words translate into memory size, < 100 bytes?

PIC's don't use bytes, 16F series use 14 bit words, 12C series use 12 bit words, and 18F use 16 bit words.

The 'bytes' listed for a PIC is purely for advertising comparisons, multiply the number of words by the number of bits, then divide by 8 to get the number of bytes (a completely useless and pointless value).

GatorGnet · 3rd June 2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

16F and lower PIC's are easy - all instructions are a single word long - so a 100 line program will take LESS than 100 words of memory, as some lines generate no code.

How many words fit in 3.5k of memory?

**Nigel Goodwin** · 3rd June 2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorGnet

How many words fit in 3.5k of memory?

3.5k of what, and in what processor?.

Read the datasheet and look how many WORDS a processor can hold, that's all that matters.

For an example a 16F627 holds 1K, a 16F628 2K, and a 16F877 8K.

GatorGnet · 3rd June 2009, 08:42 PM

Right after I asked that, the sim I am using showed 2k. sorry.

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3rd June 2009, 05:53 PM	#1
GatorGnet	PIC Memory How much memory does a typical 100 line ASM program take up in a PIC? The 16f628A shows 3.5k but is a little overkill on some of our needs. I am looking at the 10F2## for small needs. Also, does the 10F2## PIC's have a built in internal oscillator?

3rd June 2009, 05:59 PM	#2
BuffaloEngineer	All in the 10F series have internal oscillators, but be careful - not all the chips in the 10F and 12F series have interrupts. Check the datasheet if you need to use interrupts.

3rd June 2009, 07:47 PM	#4
birdman0_o	How does 100 words translate into memory size, < 100 bytes? Thanks, Mike

3rd June 2009, 08:08 PM	#5
edeca	For smaller PIC parts, all instructions are 14 bits long. So 100 NOP instructions take up the same space as 100 complex operations involving the stack. However, some instructions take more than one cycle to run. So instruction "length" in PIC flash memory does not relate to execution speed. The Wikipedia page PIC microcontroller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia shows the instructions and their binary equivalents once assembled. __________________ Private messages are for personal communication, please do not use them to ask for help.

3rd June 2009, 08:42 PM	#9
GatorGnet	Right after I asked that, the sim I am using showed 2k. sorry.