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Old 20th July 2008, 12:17 PM   (permalink)
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Does anyone have experience using any of the Buck regulator ICs available?

I'm interested in using something like the 1 amp' Micrel MIC4575 and the 3 amp' MIC4576 devices for distributing "cool" regulation along the length of a signboard matrix of 8x8 LED modules.

I'd also like to design and build a miniature plug-in 7805 replacement like the one Futz showed us recently for my assorted projects. I'm hoping I can build a few of them for much less then the $14-$18 price tag of the manufactured units.

My questions concern sourcing low esr capacitors and low profile power inductors.

Mike

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Old 20th July 2008, 12:36 PM   (permalink)
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I have used the MC33167. It's cheap and can be configured as buck or buck/boost. I am using it for a 12 to 28 volt supply at 5 A with no problems. Do need heat sink. John

Edit: Had to get it from Mouser.

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Old 20th July 2008, 12:54 PM   (permalink)
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hi Mike,
I have used the LT1074CT and the LM2577ADJ switchers, with no problems.

Why are you asking.?
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Hi Eric and jpanhalt,

My questions concern sourcing low esr capacitors and low profile power inductors. I'd like to make these as small as possible while still running 'cool' at 1 amp.

Mike

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Hi Eric and jpanhalt,

My questions concern sourcing low esr capacitors and low profile power inductors. I'd like to make these as small as possible while still running 'cool' at 1 amp.

Mike
Gotcha.

Low ESR:
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/bro...questid=234645

68uH:
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/bro...questid=234723
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Based on my experience, the MC33167 should be barely warm at 1A. I get by without one at 3A and resistive load. It is warm, but not real hot. John
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Old 20th July 2008, 01:55 PM   (permalink)
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Hi John,

Did you use the TO-220 package with heat sink or mounted to PCB? Or, did you use D2PAK with certain number of square millimeter copper sink area?

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Old 20th July 2008, 01:57 PM   (permalink)
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Eric,

Thanks for info'. I'll look for some of those parts at Mouser here in the states.

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Old 20th July 2008, 03:06 PM   (permalink)
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I used the TO-220 case mounted vertically and a small, individual heatsink to conserve space. John
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Old 20th July 2008, 03:28 PM   (permalink)
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Ok, I think I'm all set guys.

I've found the four parts I need to build and test a through hole version of the 5 volt 1 amp' regulator for about $2.95 at Mouser (two low-ESR caps', Schottky diode, and 68 uh power inductor).

Thanks guys...

Mike
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Old 20th July 2008, 03:49 PM   (permalink)
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Also from mouser, 1.5A buck switcher from STM, L4962/A. Works pretty good, but ended up with giant low esr electrolytics and torroid inductor, and little under $10 in parts. Mind sharing your choices for caps and inductor? Thanks.
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Old 20th July 2008, 04:34 PM   (permalink)
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If I understand correctly the 200 KHz switching frequency allows us to use smaller inductors and capacitors but layout and connections becomes critically important. MIC4575 Data Sheet


I wanted capacitors which were physically the same size so I modified the values a bit. Capacitance values are a bit higher but the input voltage is reduced to a maximum of about 20 volts. I'm hoping this will be fine for the laptop power bricks I use on my projects, none of which are more then 16 volts output.

Here's what I think I'd like to order unless you folks have other suggestions/considerations;

Mike

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D1 863-MBR360RLG       MBR360 Schottky, 3a     ONsemi   0.30 ea
L1 580-18R683C         68 uh, 1.35a, radial    Murata   1.42 ea
C1 140-ESRL25V330-RC   330 uf, 25wvdc, radial  Xicon    0.62 ea
C2 140-ESRL16V470-RC   470 uf, 16wvdc, radial  Xicon    0.61 ea
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U1 MIC4575             Regulator, TO-220-5     Micrel   3.26 ea

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hi Mike,
Whats the 'dc' resistance of the L1 68µH inductor.?
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Hi Eric,

Data Sheet says 0.07 ohms.
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Data Sheet says 0.07 ohms.
That sounds OK, reason for asking is that some of the smaller inductors can have a highish resistance,
which you dont want in a swpsu.
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