16F628A - can't enter programming mode... - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

whiz115 · 10th May 2008, 11:24 PM

Hi
i think i'm wasting PICs with my JDM programmer...and it's really not the right time to move on and build a different programmer, any ideas on how to revive some messed up 16F628A?

thanks!

blueroomelectronics · 10th May 2008, 11:59 PM

Lots of decent PIC programmers out there. My Junebug kit can program that 16F628A

whiz115 · 11th May 2008, 12:32 AM

bill...

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Originally Posted by whiz115

...and it's really not the right time to move on and build a different programmer

unless there isn't other way than trying a new programmer.

gramo · 11th May 2008, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiz115

Hi
i think i'm wasting PICs with my JDM programmer...and it's really not the right time to move on and build a different programmer, any ideas on how to revive some messed up 16F628A?

thanks!

Besides buy a PICKit 2 that is built and assembled for $34.95?

How are you wasting PIC's? Are they not verifying correctly - if so this could be a result of a poor circuit design, not necessarily the PIC's fault. You should be able to program the same device at least 100,000 times!

whiz115 · 11th May 2008, 09:03 PM

they're becoming kinda "locked" due to some kind of bug with JDM programmers. Meaning that sometimes PICs can't be re-programmed if you use
internal oscillator and disabling MCLR.

any opinions?

blueroomelectronics · 11th May 2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiz115

they're becoming kinda "locked" due to some kind of bug with JDM programmers. Meaning that sometimes PICs can't be re-programmed if you use
internal oscillator and disabling MCLR.

any opinions?

Sure stop using JDM type programmers, or get a really old machine with Windows 98. Your modern OS and computer are ill matched for the ancient JDM style programmer.

futz · 11th May 2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blueroomelectronics

Sure stop using JDM type programmers, or get a really old machine with Windows 98. Your modern OS and computer are ill matched for the ancient JDM style programmer.

Yup. PICkit 2's are cheap. If you count your time as worth anything at all they'll save you a ton of money. And you get debugging, which a JDM can't do. That alone is worth the money, so you get a free programmer!

PICkit 2 works with virtually all PICs. It's fast. It does debugging. It's USB and made to work with modern computers. And it integrates properly with MPLAB. It has its own software as well, that has a nice UART tool and a 3-channel logic analyzer. All that for around $35-$40 bucks. Cheap!!!

Why fight with a stupid JDM? It just isn't worth it. Spend the money and fight with your target circuit instead.

I would suggest the Junebug, but I see you're in Greece, so it may be harder to get than a PICkit 2.

whiz115 · 11th May 2008, 11:05 PM

lol...
i only wanted to unlock a couple of PICs that got accidentaly locked...

blueroomelectronics · 12th May 2008, 12:22 AM

Well if you're determined to DIY it, you'll need to build a programmer that supports 13V VPP

I ship to Greece

arhi · 12th May 2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by whiz115

lol...
i only wanted to unlock a couple of PICs that got accidentaly locked...

http://www.oshonsoft.com/picprog.html

very simple schematic that you can attach to any box with parallel port (LPT) and reprogram those PIC's using HVP (12V programming). I had few "blocked" PIC's myself and unblocked all of them using this simple one (few EUR for parts .. easy to build, you do not even need to etch the PCB)

schematic of programmer (the software you can get from the link above):

whiz115 · 12th May 2008, 01:42 PM

thanks arhi

indeed i don't have time etching and making a new programmer, i was searching for a quick solution.

also thanks the rest of the guyz ofc.

AtomSoft · 12th May 2008, 02:01 PM

why etch it? I woul dbuild this on a breadboard (or 2) and use it like that untill i can buy a pref board and build it on that... You cant be too picky when it involves saving money and time

fiveten · 12th May 2008, 03:15 PM

I was having trouble programming with my jdm when I first got it. I was able to get it woring by using a different flash program.

fiveten

Gayan Soyza · 14th May 2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by whiz115

thanks arhi

indeed i don't have time etching and making a new programmer, i was searching for a quick solution.

also thanks the rest of the guyz ofc.

Quote:

I was having trouble programming with my jdm when I first got it. I was able to get it woring by using a different flash program.

Do a PM for me.

joseph@e-tech · 19th May 2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by whiz115

thanks arhi

indeed i don't have time etching and making a new programmer, i was searching for a quick solution.

also thanks the rest of the guyz ofc.

then Junebug is the solution, you can buy a kit or better an assembled one

10th May 2008, 11:24 PM	(permalink)
whiz115 Experienced Member	16F628A - can't enter programming mode... Hi i think i'm wasting PICs with my JDM programmer...and it's really not the right time to move on and build a different programmer, any ideas on how to revive some messed up 16F628A? thanks! __________________ Please don't click on this link, it's a complete waste of time, thanks...

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11th May 2008, 09:03 PM	(permalink)
whiz115 Experienced Member	they're becoming kinda "locked" due to some kind of bug with JDM programmers. Meaning that sometimes PICs can't be re-programmed if you use internal oscillator and disabling MCLR. any opinions? __________________ Please don't click on this link, it's a complete waste of time, thanks...

11th May 2008, 11:05 PM	(permalink)
whiz115 Experienced Member	lol... i only wanted to unlock a couple of PICs that got accidentaly locked... __________________ Please don't click on this link, it's a complete waste of time, thanks...

12th May 2008, 12:22 AM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics Experienced Member Blog Entries: 4	Well if you're determined to DIY it, you'll need to build a programmer that supports 13V VPP I ship to Greece __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

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whiz115 Experienced Member	thanks arhi indeed i don't have time etching and making a new programmer, i was searching for a quick solution. also thanks the rest of the guyz ofc. __________________ Please don't click on this link, it's a complete waste of time, thanks... Last edited by whiz115; 12th May 2008 at 01:52 PM.

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AtomSoft Experienced Member	why etch it? I woul dbuild this on a breadboard (or 2) and use it like that untill i can buy a pref board and build it on that... You cant be too picky when it involves saving money and time __________________ My YouTube Videos! AtomSoft Projects

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fiveten Experienced Member	I was having trouble programming with my jdm when I first got it. I was able to get it woring by using a different flash program. fiveten

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