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AtomSoft · 26th March 2008, 10:03 PM

i know i can use the junebug as a pickit2 but i wanted to know is there a list of what PICs i can program ?

futz · 26th March 2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomSoft

i know i can use the junebug as a pickit2 but i wanted to know is there a list of what PICs i can program ?

http://microchip.com/stellent/idcplg...cName=en027813

Except for the 3.3V devices, like 24H. For those you need a genuine PICkit 2. Junebug doesn't do 3.3V.

**Krumlink** · 26th March 2008, 10:28 PM

It can program most if not any 16F and 18F series chip as stated on the website. I can imagine pretty much any one. I really love my Inchworm+

**Krumlink** · 26th March 2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by futz

http://microchip.com/stellent/idcplg...cName=en027813

Except for the 3.3V devices, like 24H. For those you need a genuine PICkit 2. Junebug doesn't do 3.3V.

NO WAY, BEAT ME BY 2 MIN

akuinnen · 26th March 2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by futz

http://microchip.com/stellent/idcplg...cName=en027813

Except for the 3.3V devices, like 24H. For those you need a genuine PICkit 2. Junebug doesn't do 3.3V.

I got a good deal on a Junebug which I hope to get soon. I'm curious if you can you reduce the +5v to +3.3v to program 3.3v targets? Is it more complicated than that?

futz · 26th March 2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by akuinnen

I got a good deal on a Junebug which I hope to get soon. I'm curious if you can you reduce the +5v to +3.3v to program 3.3v targets? Is it more complicated than that?

Was that you I was bidding against on Ebay? I didn't try too hard.

Already own one...

As is, the Junebug won't do 3.3V. That part got cut out to keep cost/complexity down. The original PICkit 2 has the capability. Bill is playing with ideas for a mod for Junebug so it can do 3.3V.

akuinnen · 27th March 2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by futz

Was that you I was bidding against on Ebay? I didn't try too hard.

Already own one...

As is, the Junebug won't do 3.3V. That part got cut out to keep cost/complexity down. The original PICkit 2 has the capability. Bill is playing with ideas for a mod for Junebug so it can do 3.3V.

Probably

It was for a pre-built one with green LEDs. I was going to buy an unassembled kit until I saw the auction. Even though I like to build, I couldn't pass up bidding on it. Bill being active in the community is a big plus for the Junebug over other programmers. Missing out on 3.3V PIC isn't a big deal for me right now.

I'm hoping to build a Freq counter and LC meter using PIC in the future. I need them to support my radio projects.

futz · 27th March 2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by akuinnen

Probably

It was for a pre-built one with green LEDs. I was going to buy an unassembled kit until I saw the auction.

That was you!

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Missing out on 3.3V PIC isn't a big deal for me right now.

Ya, not a huge deal. I just recently bought a real PICkit 2 as well because I wanted to program a 24HJ12GP202.

blueroomelectronics · 27th March 2008, 01:06 AM

I've got a 3.3V 24F coming in the mail, I'll try a pair of 1N5817 diodes on the PGC & PFD pins as clamps.

AtomSoft · 27th March 2008, 01:23 AM

Ok cool a real PICkit 2 isnt pricey anyway so i would consider buying one. But for now ill use the junebug...

... futz... thanks for the link

blueroomelectronics · 27th March 2008, 01:36 AM

Unless you need the 3.3V stuff it'll do everything a genuine PK2 will do. If you want to dabble in high end PICs the many 30Fxxxx are 5V.
You can also hook a PK2 or another Junebug to the Junebugs 16pin header and use your Junebug as a USB experimenter.

AtomSoft · 27th March 2008, 02:14 AM

cant you just make a power adjustment for the 3.3v chips? and have it plug to the socket of the 1320?

August Treubig · 27th March 2008, 02:40 AM

Remember, the voltages are controled by the software onboard the 18F2550. Comes from microchip. Unless he puts all the stuff (or most of it) that he left out you can't automatically do it.

To see what he did vs a real pickit2, go to microchip's web site and get the doc on the Pickit2. At the end of it is the schematics of a "real" pickit2

blueroomelectronics · 27th March 2008, 02:47 AM

As August noted, the 3.3V stuff is a combination of a programmable VDD source and some transistor clamps.

blueroomelectronics · 27th March 2008, 02:52 AM

The dsPIC30F4013 is both 5V & 40pin DIP. I wonder what sort of kit would need such a powerful PIC.

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27th March 2008, 01:06 AM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	I've got a 3.3V 24F coming in the mail, I'll try a pair of 1N5817 diodes on the PGC & PFD pins as clamps. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

27th March 2008, 01:23 AM	(permalink)
AtomSoft	Ok cool a real PICkit 2 isnt pricey anyway so i would consider buying one. But for now ill use the junebug... ... futz... thanks for the link __________________ AtomSoftTech.com My YouTube Videos! My Favorite Stores: dipmicro Electronics SparkFun Electronics Futurlec BG Micro

27th March 2008, 01:36 AM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	Unless you need the 3.3V stuff it'll do everything a genuine PK2 will do. If you want to dabble in high end PICs the many 30Fxxxx are 5V. You can also hook a PK2 or another Junebug to the Junebugs 16pin header and use your Junebug as a USB experimenter. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

27th March 2008, 02:14 AM	(permalink)
AtomSoft	cant you just make a power adjustment for the 3.3v chips? and have it plug to the socket of the 1320? __________________ AtomSoftTech.com My YouTube Videos! My Favorite Stores: dipmicro Electronics SparkFun Electronics Futurlec BG Micro

27th March 2008, 02:40 AM	(permalink)
August Treubig	Cant mess with the software Remember, the voltages are controled by the software onboard the 18F2550. Comes from microchip. Unless he puts all the stuff (or most of it) that he left out you can't automatically do it. To see what he did vs a real pickit2, go to microchip's web site and get the doc on the Pickit2. At the end of it is the schematics of a "real" pickit2 __________________ August Treubig AG5AT

27th March 2008, 02:47 AM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	As August noted, the 3.3V stuff is a combination of a programmable VDD source and some transistor clamps. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

27th March 2008, 02:52 AM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	The dsPIC30F4013 is both 5V & 40pin DIP. I wonder what sort of kit would need such a powerful PIC. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com