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Old 26th March 2008, 10:03 PM   #1
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i know i can use the junebug as a pickit2 but i wanted to know is there a list of what PICs i can program ?
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Old 26th March 2008, 10:26 PM   #2
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i know i can use the junebug as a pickit2 but i wanted to know is there a list of what PICs i can program ?
http://microchip.com/stellent/idcplg...cName=en027813

Except for the 3.3V devices, like 24H. For those you need a genuine PICkit 2. Junebug doesn't do 3.3V.
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Old 26th March 2008, 10:28 PM   #3
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It can program most if not any 16F and 18F series chip as stated on the website. I can imagine pretty much any one. I really love my Inchworm+
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Old 26th March 2008, 10:29 PM   #4
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http://microchip.com/stellent/idcplg...cName=en027813

Except for the 3.3V devices, like 24H. For those you need a genuine PICkit 2. Junebug doesn't do 3.3V.
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Old 26th March 2008, 11:38 PM   #5
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http://microchip.com/stellent/idcplg...cName=en027813

Except for the 3.3V devices, like 24H. For those you need a genuine PICkit 2. Junebug doesn't do 3.3V.
I got a good deal on a Junebug which I hope to get soon. I'm curious if you can you reduce the +5v to +3.3v to program 3.3v targets? Is it more complicated than that?
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Old 26th March 2008, 11:53 PM   #6
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I got a good deal on a Junebug which I hope to get soon. I'm curious if you can you reduce the +5v to +3.3v to program 3.3v targets? Is it more complicated than that?
Was that you I was bidding against on Ebay? I didn't try too hard. Already own one...

As is, the Junebug won't do 3.3V. That part got cut out to keep cost/complexity down. The original PICkit 2 has the capability. Bill is playing with ideas for a mod for Junebug so it can do 3.3V.
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Old 27th March 2008, 12:26 AM   #7
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Was that you I was bidding against on Ebay? I didn't try too hard. Already own one...

As is, the Junebug won't do 3.3V. That part got cut out to keep cost/complexity down. The original PICkit 2 has the capability. Bill is playing with ideas for a mod for Junebug so it can do 3.3V.
Probably
It was for a pre-built one with green LEDs. I was going to buy an unassembled kit until I saw the auction. Even though I like to build, I couldn't pass up bidding on it. Bill being active in the community is a big plus for the Junebug over other programmers. Missing out on 3.3V PIC isn't a big deal for me right now.

I'm hoping to build a Freq counter and LC meter using PIC in the future. I need them to support my radio projects.
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Old 27th March 2008, 12:46 AM   #8
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It was for a pre-built one with green LEDs. I was going to buy an unassembled kit until I saw the auction.
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Missing out on 3.3V PIC isn't a big deal for me right now.
Ya, not a huge deal. I just recently bought a real PICkit 2 as well because I wanted to program a 24HJ12GP202.
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Old 27th March 2008, 01:06 AM   #9
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I've got a 3.3V 24F coming in the mail, I'll try a pair of 1N5817 diodes on the PGC & PFD pins as clamps.
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Old 27th March 2008, 01:23 AM   #10
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Ok cool a real PICkit 2 isnt pricey anyway so i would consider buying one. But for now ill use the junebug...

... futz... thanks for the link
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Old 27th March 2008, 01:36 AM   #11
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Unless you need the 3.3V stuff it'll do everything a genuine PK2 will do. If you want to dabble in high end PICs the many 30Fxxxx are 5V.
You can also hook a PK2 or another Junebug to the Junebugs 16pin header and use your Junebug as a USB experimenter.
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Old 27th March 2008, 02:14 AM   #12
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cant you just make a power adjustment for the 3.3v chips? and have it plug to the socket of the 1320?
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Old 27th March 2008, 02:40 AM   #13
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Remember, the voltages are controled by the software onboard the 18F2550. Comes from microchip. Unless he puts all the stuff (or most of it) that he left out you can't automatically do it.

To see what he did vs a real pickit2, go to microchip's web site and get the doc on the Pickit2. At the end of it is the schematics of a "real" pickit2
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Old 27th March 2008, 02:47 AM   #14
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As August noted, the 3.3V stuff is a combination of a programmable VDD source and some transistor clamps.
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Old 27th March 2008, 02:52 AM   #15
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The dsPIC30F4013 is both 5V & 40pin DIP. I wonder what sort of kit would need such a powerful PIC.
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