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gth629e · 12th February 2008, 07:29 AM

Okay so heres the scoop,

I have this project that seems "impossible" lol. If you can help me or come with a solution. I would gladly pay you for your troubles through paypal or something else. Of course if you would like to do it pro bono that is fine as well =).

Before I get started let me say, this seems simple at first but for some reason, I have not been able to find anyone who could complete it.

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Here is the problem,

I have a total of 20 push button switches that will be in a hand held device. This device needs to be connected to a computer via a usb cable. The device does not need to be high speed so low speed will work.

I need the device to appear as a USB keyboard or some other HID usb device so that the pc thinks an actual keyboard is connected.

I am not concerned about key ghosting etc. Also, these pushbuttons could be attached in a matrix no problem. 5x4 etc.

Here are the actual strings that need to be "sent".

1. `
2. -
3. +
4. /
5. [
6. ]
7. Alt-R
8. Alt-S
9. Space
10. F11
11. F10
12. Ctrl-J
13. Alt-J
14. Up
15. Down
16. Left
17. Right
18. >
19. <
20. Ctrl-W

Notice some of the strings commands must be a combination of key presses. I would prefer this to be done in the software/firmware so that no DPDT switches would be required.

Also, I must be able to “detect” when a switch is being held down (repeating).

I do not care if the usb is implemented though hardware or through firmware clocking the PIC at 12 mhz with an external oscillator etc.

I have done a bit of research and have come up with some possible solutions. Keep in mind, I do not have any requirements on how this can be done with a PIC, or AVR microcontroller etc. Although, tearing apart keyboards is not an option.

1. I found this

http://symlink.dk/projects/c64key/

He uses the AVR Atmel8 and the AVR-USB based on the HIDKeys as the base to implements the usb via firware.

http://www.obdev.at/products/avrusb/hidkeys.html

2.

http://download.cypress.com.edgesuit..._an1267_12.pdf

and

http://download.cypress.com.edgesuit...y7c63413_8.pdf

3.

http://www.holtek.com.tw/pdf/computer/82k95xv180.pdf

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1. I need a circuit
2. a BOM (bill of materials

3. Also, the firmware and program to program on the chip.

ANYTHING you could do to help would GREATLY be appreciated Thanks.

Brian

Kryten · 12th February 2008, 07:57 AM

If you care to read the first link you might get som nice clues as to how to do it. If you ask for everuthing youll get none but come with code and ask whats wrong with it, or a circiut and ask why dont it work then you will get help...

And its acually quite easy as far as the circiut goes.. just make a matrix (as you said) and hve the buttons ground to signals (see attached pic. Let the buttons be in the intersections) I can make a rough layout in Eagle cad for you if you want (just the keypad) Just give me if you want 5 rows and 4 cols or the other way

gth629e · 12th February 2008, 08:02 AM

Yes I know there is a circuit provided and even the code for the C64 project. My problem here is that I simply do not have the time to do it myself. I'm sure if I had the time I could figure it out. But we all can't be experts on everything thats why we specialize lol. I do intent to learn C etc. Program chips and increase my EE knowledge but not right now. I have about 5 other projects that I do know how to do and I must complete lol. That is why I am looking for assistance. I am the probably the biggest DIY'er I know but time does not allow me to take on this project.

After all, I bet anyone could design an IC engine given enough time and tinkering. However, if you needed a fully working model the next week, I doubt that approach would be the best.

So, I thought I would ask people with different skill sets as my own.

Regards,
Brian

Kryten · 12th February 2008, 08:13 AM

yeh ok thats all good

simrantogether · 12th February 2008, 08:22 AM

Hi,

I feel if you are having any keyboard related problem then you should visit

www.beyondlogic.org

Regards,

Simran..

simrantogether · 12th February 2008, 08:26 AM

Well ,

If really need help... then follow these steps...

Start from the portion from where you know very well...

Slowly and slowly learn more .. learn more and fulfill next step of application...

Embedded is such a subject : where you can learn only by doing...

Regards,

Simran..

gth629e · 12th February 2008, 08:27 AM

Thanks,

The circuit is not really the issue. I could make minor changes to the C64 circuit to get what i need. I am fairly comfortable with that.

I am completely lost when it comes to the programing. How do I program the usb firmware on the chip, how do I modify the code to allow combo key presses, or how do I program the chip at all for that matter.

I currently have ponyprog and winavr installed, because I was going to try and reproduce the C64 project and just modify the code to do what I want.

But I got completely lost. Theres the make file, the main file, the usb support file etc. The only programing experience I have is in basic and that seems very different.

The C64 project is very close to what I need but I do not know what to do with it. I know I could make a simple ISP programmer using the printer port but thats about all I know.

gth629e · 12th February 2008, 08:28 AM

Your bank code seems a little long Simran lol

simrantogether · 12th February 2008, 08:38 AM

Well you start designing...

any problem comes we forum members are there to help you...

Regards,

Simran..

simrantogether · 12th February 2008, 08:43 AM

Quote:

I am completely lost when it comes to the programing. How do I program the usb firmware on the chip, how do I modify the code to allow combo key presses, or how do I program the chip at all for that matter.

I am not sure but i feel i have the answer for you...

try that microcontroller that has the usb interface with that... like (I feel AVR) or PIC 18 F ...

Quote:

I currently have ponyprog and winavr installed, because I was going to try and reproduce the C64 project and just modify the code to do what I want.

But I got completely lost. Theres the make file, the main file, the usb support file etc. The only programing experience I have is in basic and that seems very different.

Well learn C ... i feel BASIC is not having that industry reputation as C.

Quote:

The C64 project is very close to what I need but I do not know what to do with it. I know I could make a simple ISP programmer using the printer port but thats about all I know.

See man is not born as as an engineer or doctor ...

We have to learn step by step...

Take some more time... but learn step by step... Lots of material on internet...

and we are here to help you out...

Regards,

Simran..

gth629e · 12th February 2008, 08:46 AM

ok,

How do I edit his code?

What is the syntax?

How do I program the chip?

There are about 6 different files, which ones do what?

The list could go on...

Again, I am not looking for this particular project to be a learning experience although I would love to have the comfort and time to do so. U

Unfortunately, this is a case where I have a problem and I need a solution so that I can continue my other project.

When I have the time I would love to learn every bit of this, but in that case I think I would start off with different project.

And trust me this is my third week of trying to do it on my own and with little progress. Now the time is here when I just need a solution. =(.

Regards,
Brian

simrantogether · 12th February 2008, 08:53 AM

Well OK...

Remember...

You dont need to see all the files...

Only one of the two files , i know there are a lot of files attached...

either with the extension .asm ( if program is written in assembly )
or with extension .c (if program is written in C ).

Regards,

Simran..

gth629e · 12th February 2008, 08:59 AM

The file is in c because there is a

main.c
m8key.pnproj
main.hex
makefile
usbconfig.h
c64key.ppg

etc.

gth629e · 12th February 2008, 09:00 AM

Do you have a source for c tutorials or programing micro controllers tutorials etc?

simrantogether · 12th February 2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gth629e

The file is in c because there is a

main.c
m8key.pnproj
main.hex
makefile
usbconfig.h
c64key.ppg

etc.

Well ... very simple...

just to do is ...

concentrate on two files only ( rather one file only )...

do your work on main.c and see the output file main.hex is automatically changed.

Yes...

Regarding tutorials...

Please give me your email ID...

Regards,

Simran..

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12th February 2008, 07:29 AM	(permalink)
gth629e	Microcontroller Project $50-$200+ Reward Help please Okay so heres the scoop, I have this project that seems "impossible" lol. If you can help me or come with a solution. I would gladly pay you for your troubles through paypal or something else. Of course if you would like to do it pro bono that is fine as well =). Before I get started let me say, this seems simple at first but for some reason, I have not been able to find anyone who could complete it. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Here is the problem, I have a total of 20 push button switches that will be in a hand held device. This device needs to be connected to a computer via a usb cable. The device does not need to be high speed so low speed will work. I need the device to appear as a USB keyboard or some other HID usb device so that the pc thinks an actual keyboard is connected. I am not concerned about key ghosting etc. Also, these pushbuttons could be attached in a matrix no problem. 5x4 etc. Here are the actual strings that need to be "sent". 1. ` 2. - 3. + 4. / 5. [ 6. ] 7. Alt-R 8. Alt-S 9. Space 10. F11 11. F10 12. Ctrl-J 13. Alt-J 14. Up 15. Down 16. Left 17. Right 18. > 19. < 20. Ctrl-W Notice some of the strings commands must be a combination of key presses. I would prefer this to be done in the software/firmware so that no DPDT switches would be required. Also, I must be able to “detect” when a switch is being held down (repeating). I do not care if the usb is implemented though hardware or through firmware clocking the PIC at 12 mhz with an external oscillator etc. I have done a bit of research and have come up with some possible solutions. Keep in mind, I do not have any requirements on how this can be done with a PIC, or AVR microcontroller etc. Although, tearing apart keyboards is not an option. 1. I found this http://symlink.dk/projects/c64key/ He uses the AVR Atmel8 and the AVR-USB based on the HIDKeys as the base to implements the usb via firware. http://www.obdev.at/products/avrusb/hidkeys.html 2. http://download.cypress.com.edgesuit..._an1267_12.pdf and http://download.cypress.com.edgesuit...y7c63413_8.pdf 3. http://www.holtek.com.tw/pdf/computer/82k95xv180.pdf XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 1. I need a circuit 2. a BOM (bill of materials 3. Also, the firmware and program to program on the chip. ANYTHING you could do to help would GREATLY be appreciated Thanks. Brian Last edited by gth629e; 12th February 2008 at 07:04 PM.

12th February 2008, 08:02 AM	(permalink)
gth629e	Yes I know there is a circuit provided and even the code for the C64 project. My problem here is that I simply do not have the time to do it myself. I'm sure if I had the time I could figure it out. But we all can't be experts on everything thats why we specialize lol. I do intent to learn C etc. Program chips and increase my EE knowledge but not right now. I have about 5 other projects that I do know how to do and I must complete lol. That is why I am looking for assistance. I am the probably the biggest DIY'er I know but time does not allow me to take on this project. After all, I bet anyone could design an IC engine given enough time and tinkering. However, if you needed a fully working model the next week, I doubt that approach would be the best. So, I thought I would ask people with different skill sets as my own. Regards, Brian Last edited by gth629e; 12th February 2008 at 08:10 AM.

12th February 2008, 08:13 AM	(permalink)
Kryten	yeh ok thats all good __________________ Simplicity rules Good enought - its perfect ?? 2 Gig of free online backup space Are you a Chemist?

12th February 2008, 08:22 AM	(permalink)
simrantogether	Well... Hi, I feel if you are having any keyboard related problem then you should visit www.beyondlogic.org Regards, Simran.. __________________ Simran.. 8051 Specialist..

12th February 2008, 08:26 AM	(permalink)
simrantogether	Start... Well , If really need help... then follow these steps... Start from the portion from where you know very well... Slowly and slowly learn more .. learn more and fulfill next step of application... Embedded is such a subject : where you can learn only by doing... Regards, Simran.. __________________ Simran.. 8051 Specialist..

12th February 2008, 08:27 AM	(permalink)
gth629e	Thanks, The circuit is not really the issue. I could make minor changes to the C64 circuit to get what i need. I am fairly comfortable with that. I am completely lost when it comes to the programing. How do I program the usb firmware on the chip, how do I modify the code to allow combo key presses, or how do I program the chip at all for that matter. I currently have ponyprog and winavr installed, because I was going to try and reproduce the C64 project and just modify the code to do what I want. But I got completely lost. Theres the make file, the main file, the usb support file etc. The only programing experience I have is in basic and that seems very different. The C64 project is very close to what I need but I do not know what to do with it. I know I could make a simple ISP programmer using the printer port but thats about all I know.

12th February 2008, 08:28 AM	(permalink)
gth629e	Your bank code seems a little long Simran lol

12th February 2008, 08:38 AM	(permalink)
simrantogether	Well... Well you start designing... any problem comes we forum members are there to help you... Regards, Simran.. __________________ Simran.. 8051 Specialist..

12th February 2008, 08:46 AM	(permalink)
gth629e	ok, How do I edit his code? What is the syntax? How do I program the chip? There are about 6 different files, which ones do what? The list could go on... Again, I am not looking for this particular project to be a learning experience although I would love to have the comfort and time to do so. U Unfortunately, this is a case where I have a problem and I need a solution so that I can continue my other project. When I have the time I would love to learn every bit of this, but in that case I think I would start off with different project. And trust me this is my third week of trying to do it on my own and with little progress. Now the time is here when I just need a solution. =(. Regards, Brian

12th February 2008, 08:53 AM	(permalink)
simrantogether	Ok... Well OK... Remember... You dont need to see all the files... Only one of the two files , i know there are a lot of files attached... either with the extension .asm ( if program is written in assembly ) or with extension .c (if program is written in C ). Regards, Simran.. __________________ Simran.. 8051 Specialist..

12th February 2008, 08:59 AM	(permalink)
gth629e	The file is in c because there is a main.c m8key.pnproj main.hex makefile usbconfig.h c64key.ppg etc.

12th February 2008, 09:00 AM	(permalink)
gth629e	Do you have a source for c tutorials or programing micro controllers tutorials etc?