simple PIC16F84A programmer/burner pcb layout kit - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

lancer1982 · 18th January 2008, 05:50 AM

hello to all!

I'm new here and I find that came to a right place for my problem. I was wondering if there someone could tell me where can I find a schematic diagram of the simple PIC16F84A microcontroller programmer/burner parallel or serial port.

Blueteeth · 18th January 2008, 05:56 AM

Wow, google 'simple PIC programmer'. You'll probably come across many 'JDM' style serial programmers. If you are looking for the simplest, then I've used this one for my early '84 work:

http://www.hellspark.com/dm/ebench/s...M/uJDMmain.htm

That is before I realised that the '84 is more expensive than most, as its no longer produced. I would start with the 16F88, or 16F628A.. same pinout, same package, just more peripherals to play with. Cheaper too!

could use Ponyprog? http://www.lancos.com/prog.html

Here s link to show just what google has:
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

plenty of info everywher eon this forum.

Blueteeth

Doh! forgot...read the 'sticky' second post down in this forum. It has ALL you need to know in it.

mvs sarma · 18th January 2008, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancer1982

hello to all!

I'm new here and I find that came to a right place for my problem. I was wondering if there someone could tell me where can I find a schematic diagram of the simple PIC16F84A microcontroller programmer/burner parallel or serial port.

Forget this JDM version as you will be eternally facing problems like anyone else.
as you are into PICs you better efford an USB programmer.this is a one time measure and you will enjoy using it. always go for PICKIT2 of Microchip or a known and reliable clone. I use Junebug from blueroom at www.Blueroomelectronics.com

Gayan Soyza · 18th January 2008, 06:12 AM

Something like external power feeding type versions little bit handy.

http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wi...tm#simple_prog

lancer1982 · 18th January 2008, 07:08 AM

Thanks a lot.

OY2L · 18th January 2008, 09:59 AM

This is a good programmer. http://www.lpilsley.co.uk/pdf/p16pro40.pdf

Tarsil · 19th January 2008, 04:13 PM

http://feng3.cool.ne.jp/en/rcd.html
this one works...

wmmullaney · 19th January 2008, 05:25 PM

Look around this site, (if you want JDM) from 1 part programmer to a rather complicated one.

http://www.jdm.homepage.dk/newpic.htm

donniedj · 19th January 2008, 08:25 PM

I am no advocate for the 'F84, but how come no one mentions the NOPPP anymore or the AN589?

By the way, get a PICkit2.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 19th January 2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donniedj

I am no advocate for the 'F84, but how come no one mentions the NOPPP anymore or the AN589?

The AN589 has never been mentioned until recently, I don't think many people ever bothered building it?.

blueroomelectronics · 19th January 2008, 09:36 PM

Simple programmers like JDM, NOPPP, AN589 worked with simple PICs and simple OS like DOS on old machines. Multi-threaded OSes like XP and fast computers made using those old programmers near impossible.
If you have an old 486 with DOS (those old 486s usually heve the proper printer & rs232 ports) you'll probably have more luck than anyome with a modern PC.
Now here's my opinion
You can learn much about PIC programming and spend zero dollars by simply downloading the free MPLAB IDE. It has all the tools you need to program and simulate your PIC code. It even works with several free compilers.
If you are determined to get a programmer then get a PICkit 2 or compatible like my Junebug. This assumes you have a budget of about $50. If $50 is out of your price range then get a paper route or wait till you can afford the tools you need. After all your computer probably cost you more than $50.
People built cheap programmers because way back there was nothing available for under $200
Today anyone can now buy an excellent PIC programmer for about the price of a dozen McDonalds happy meals.

Funny NYPD · 22nd January 2008, 09:38 PM

Would recommend JDM or PICKit2 as low cost solution.

wmmullaney · 22nd January 2008, 11:03 PM

I have a Sparkfun edition JDM.

lancer1982 · 29th January 2008, 01:58 PM

Thanks to all of you. I did buy a pic burner and its cheap. Thanks a lot for all of your advices.

I just use the IC-Prog JDM and it work.

wmmullaney · 6th February 2008, 04:23 PM

Did you use XP? Did your programmer need an external power supply?

My XP had an 8v serial port.

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18th January 2008, 05:50 AM	(permalink)
lancer1982	simple PIC16F84A programmer/burner pcb layout kit hello to all! I'm new here and I find that came to a right place for my problem. I was wondering if there someone could tell me where can I find a schematic diagram of the simple PIC16F84A microcontroller programmer/burner parallel or serial port.

18th January 2008, 05:56 AM	(permalink)
Blueteeth	Wow, google 'simple PIC programmer'. You'll probably come across many 'JDM' style serial programmers. If you are looking for the simplest, then I've used this one for my early '84 work: http://www.hellspark.com/dm/ebench/s...M/uJDMmain.htm That is before I realised that the '84 is more expensive than most, as its no longer produced. I would start with the 16F88, or 16F628A.. same pinout, same package, just more peripherals to play with. Cheaper too! could use Ponyprog? http://www.lancos.com/prog.html Here s link to show just what google has: http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl...-8&sa=N&tab=wi plenty of info everywher eon this forum. Blueteeth Doh! forgot...read the 'sticky' second post down in this forum. It has ALL you need to know in it. __________________ Inconsistency is the key to flexibility! Last edited by Blueteeth; 18th January 2008 at 05:58 AM.

18th January 2008, 06:12 AM	(permalink)
Gayan Soyza	Something like external power feeding type versions little bit handy. http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/wi...tm#simple_prog __________________ Gayan My Website http://gsmicro.blogspot.com/

18th January 2008, 07:08 AM	(permalink)
lancer1982	Thanks a lot.

18th January 2008, 09:59 AM	(permalink)
OY2L	This is a good programmer. http://www.lpilsley.co.uk/pdf/p16pro40.pdf

19th January 2008, 04:13 PM	(permalink)
Tarsil	http://feng3.cool.ne.jp/en/rcd.html this one works... __________________ If is too complicated.....most of the times is the wrong way.

19th January 2008, 05:25 PM	(permalink)
wmmullaney	Look around this site, (if you want JDM) from 1 part programmer to a rather complicated one. http://www.jdm.homepage.dk/newpic.htm __________________ Regards, William Mullaney "HOPE for the best, EXPECT the worst, ACCEPT whatever comes." http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ind/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/tra/

19th January 2008, 08:25 PM	(permalink)
donniedj	I am no advocate for the 'F84, but how come no one mentions the NOPPP anymore or the AN589? By the way, get a PICkit2.

19th January 2008, 09:36 PM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	Simple programmers like JDM, NOPPP, AN589 worked with simple PICs and simple OS like DOS on old machines. Multi-threaded OSes like XP and fast computers made using those old programmers near impossible. If you have an old 486 with DOS (those old 486s usually heve the proper printer & rs232 ports) you'll probably have more luck than anyome with a modern PC. Now here's my opinion You can learn much about PIC programming and spend zero dollars by simply downloading the free MPLAB IDE. It has all the tools you need to program and simulate your PIC code. It even works with several free compilers. If you are determined to get a programmer then get a PICkit 2 or compatible like my Junebug. This assumes you have a budget of about $50. If $50 is out of your price range then get a paper route or wait till you can afford the tools you need. After all your computer probably cost you more than $50. People built cheap programmers because way back there was nothing available for under $200 Today anyone can now buy an excellent PIC programmer for about the price of a dozen McDonalds happy meals. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

22nd January 2008, 09:38 PM	(permalink)
Funny NYPD	Would recommend JDM or PICKit2 as low cost solution. __________________ F.N.

22nd January 2008, 11:03 PM	(permalink)
wmmullaney	I have a Sparkfun edition JDM. __________________ Regards, William Mullaney "HOPE for the best, EXPECT the worst, ACCEPT whatever comes." http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ind/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/tra/

29th January 2008, 01:58 PM	(permalink)
lancer1982	Thanks to all of you. I did buy a pic burner and its cheap. Thanks a lot for all of your advices. I just use the IC-Prog JDM and it work. Last edited by lancer1982; 29th January 2008 at 02:14 PM.

6th February 2008, 04:23 PM	(permalink)
wmmullaney	Did you use XP? Did your programmer need an external power supply? My XP had an 8v serial port. __________________ Regards, William Mullaney "HOPE for the best, EXPECT the worst, ACCEPT whatever comes." http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ind/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/tra/