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m_saeed_soliman · 16th January 2008, 07:46 PM

Hey Guys,
I am a new member here
My name Is Mohammed Soliman , And I am from Egypt
I wanted to ask about the best way to program PIC microcontrollers , which simulator should I use? which programmer software? and which programmer hardware?
i will be very grateful to you all
I want to know if the PIC 16f84A lasts with you for a long time
i have bought 2 till now , but neither of them survived with me more than 2 weeks
moreover, i hope you can tell me about the best programming language to use " assembly, C++, Basic " and why?
thanks for eveyone in advance

blueroomelectronics · 16th January 2008, 08:06 PM

Answers
MPLAB 8.01
PICkit 2 or my Junebug
18f84A will last for ages, you're doing something out of spec with it
Use a 16f628a instead, better part at half the price
If you can get a 16f88 then that chip supports debug.

wmmullaney · 16th January 2008, 08:14 PM

Hi, to start out, Nigel's software is good, winpicprog.co.uk/ the best assemblers / sims are free from microchip.com (MPLAB Suite)
The 16f84 is outdated and to expensive, I use PIC16f628a. I started with assembly, I love it, would never go for C or BASIC. Read through the Datasheet (Also from microchip), it contains most of the info you will need.

An older tutorial here.

http://www.mstracey.btinternet.co.uk...al/picmain.htm

Nigel's site also has a tutorial Pic16f628 (Mostly compatible with 16f84).

Just thinking, is Egypt's heat messing with the pic?

Good luck,
William

wmmullaney · 16th January 2008, 08:15 PM

Bill, you posted while I was still typing!

m_saeed_soliman · 16th January 2008, 09:05 PM

thanks every one for replying
i have one more question
i used to use a program called "Pic simulator IDE" for Simulation and "IC prog" for programming the PIC
if any one can tell me which is better these programs or Mplab , i would be grateful

wmmullaney · 16th January 2008, 09:23 PM

I personally haven't used it, but, since Microchip made the thing, I would guess that Microchip's is better.

blueroomelectronics · 16th January 2008, 10:46 PM

If you mean the Oshonsoft simulator, yes it's very good.
As for IC prog, it's a little old and your mileage may vary.
MPLAB is free, download it and take a look.

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16th January 2008, 07:46 PM	(permalink)
m_saeed_soliman	a question about microcontrollers Hey Guys, I am a new member here My name Is Mohammed Soliman , And I am from Egypt I wanted to ask about the best way to program PIC microcontrollers , which simulator should I use? which programmer software? and which programmer hardware? i will be very grateful to you all I want to know if the PIC 16f84A lasts with you for a long time i have bought 2 till now , but neither of them survived with me more than 2 weeks moreover, i hope you can tell me about the best programming language to use " assembly, C++, Basic " and why? thanks for eveyone in advance Last edited by m_saeed_soliman; 16th January 2008 at 07:52 PM.

16th January 2008, 08:06 PM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	Answers MPLAB 8.01 PICkit 2 or my Junebug 18f84A will last for ages, you're doing something out of spec with it Use a 16f628a instead, better part at half the price If you can get a 16f88 then that chip supports debug. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

16th January 2008, 08:14 PM	(permalink)
wmmullaney	Hi, to start out, Nigel's software is good, winpicprog.co.uk/ the best assemblers / sims are free from microchip.com (MPLAB Suite) The 16f84 is outdated and to expensive, I use PIC16f628a. I started with assembly, I love it, would never go for C or BASIC. Read through the Datasheet (Also from microchip), it contains most of the info you will need. An older tutorial here. http://www.mstracey.btinternet.co.uk...al/picmain.htm Nigel's site also has a tutorial Pic16f628 (Mostly compatible with 16f84). Just thinking, is Egypt's heat messing with the pic? Good luck, William __________________ Regards, William Mullaney "HOPE for the best, EXPECT the worst, ACCEPT whatever comes." http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ind/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/tra/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/sec/

16th January 2008, 08:15 PM	(permalink)
wmmullaney	Bill, you posted while I was still typing! __________________ Regards, William Mullaney "HOPE for the best, EXPECT the worst, ACCEPT whatever comes." http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ind/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/tra/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/sec/

16th January 2008, 09:05 PM	(permalink)
m_saeed_soliman	thanks every one for replying i have one more question i used to use a program called "Pic simulator IDE" for Simulation and "IC prog" for programming the PIC if any one can tell me which is better these programs or Mplab , i would be grateful

16th January 2008, 09:23 PM	(permalink)
wmmullaney	I personally haven't used it, but, since Microchip made the thing, I would guess that Microchip's is better. __________________ Regards, William Mullaney "HOPE for the best, EXPECT the worst, ACCEPT whatever comes." http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/ind/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/tra/ http://wiliamsville.myminicity.com/sec/

16th January 2008, 10:46 PM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	If you mean the Oshonsoft simulator, yes it's very good. As for IC prog, it's a little old and your mileage may vary. MPLAB is free, download it and take a look. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com