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Old 5th December 2007, 02:14 PM   (permalink)
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hey guys, how would you want to compare between pic and avr? i want to switch to one of them.
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Old 5th December 2007, 02:16 PM   (permalink)
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sorry, watching cartoons and posting a thread! forgive me for the grammatical mistake.
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Old 5th December 2007, 02:18 PM   (permalink)
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It's an often argued point, but basically either will do the job - PIC has the advantage of much greater popularity, and much more support - but there's enough support for AVR as well.

What programing experience do you already have?.
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Old 6th December 2007, 02:38 PM   (permalink)
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Also search this forum as there had been many debates on this as well.

I think Nigel is about to point out, your previous programming background (if any) might point you to the better chip for you.
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Old 7th December 2007, 02:35 PM   (permalink)
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Originally Posted by umar karim
hey guys, how would you want to compare between pic and avr? i want to switch to one of them.
Well ,

It depends on you...

Pic is a popular microcontroller with a lot of resources on the internet.

while AVR is a new and Industry Hot microcontroller..

I suggest you to Go for AVR...

If need links... tell me...

Regards,

Simran..
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Old 7th December 2007, 02:46 PM   (permalink)
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while AVR is a new and Industry Hot microcontroller..
Interesting comment from someone with "8051 specialist" in his signature

AVR isn't all that new, only when compared to PIC's (which it was blatently aimed at, even copying the PIC's three letter name), but hasn't really managed any great sales figures yet (compared to MicroChip).

But really either would do the job, or would even the 8051 (which seems popular out India way still?).
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Old 7th December 2007, 03:52 PM   (permalink)
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AVR, new??? That would make my 1994 Ford Explorer a new truck.

And with an 8051 background, I would pick the AVR as well.

If the OP is new and has no skills with microcontrollers, I would lean to the PIC for support (and this forum). Though the AVRfreak.com guys are very helpful as well.
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Old 7th December 2007, 04:00 PM   (permalink)
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And with an 8051 background, I would pick the AVR as well.
So would I!
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Old 7th December 2007, 04:45 PM   (permalink)
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I am unbiased.

I suggest you go with the PIC,





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Old 8th December 2007, 02:48 AM   (permalink)
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Previous knowledge with 8051 has little to do with which microcontroller to pick for startup.

The PIC is a very good step forward for anyone wandering into the wonderful world of microcontrollers. I chose to start with the PIC although I am quite comfortable with 8051 and I'm still convinced that I have made the correct choice. If you trust me, you will encounter far fewer "difficulties" if you start with PIC other than AVR.

The best of all is the PIC will not lock you out from your own silly mistakes in MCU configuration. You can always recover from your mistake by reprogramming it. This one point alone is totally vital for beginners. Otherwise with AVR one have to use a parallel high voltage programmer that requires upto 20 connections to the AVR to resurrect the wrongly programmed AVR.

After one is comfortable with PIC one can explore the more joyful world of AVR and ARM.
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Old 8th December 2007, 03:36 AM   (permalink)
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eblc1388,

Ahh! The default code protect checked on. That was way back for me. I locked a couple chips before I saw that was default. The 1200A (2313 with NO RAM other than the registers). I did not mind using the registers for my RAM. But wasted a couple chips.

That is not what killed Atmel/AVR for me. And they have a great product. I have a dragon programmer I might use one day.

I left them when I needed tech support on a Tiny11 project (that was a real winner for them I am sure) and I could not get the STK-500 to program it. Tech support was over a month later when they called and I had moved it to the Microchip (PIC). In fact go back in this forum years ago and you will see where I used Nigel's website and moved it to a 12F675

Umar,

The PIC is harder, but you have a lot of people that will help you. Also, what are you switching from?
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Old 21st January 2008, 07:31 PM   (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simrantogether
Well ,

It depends on you...

Pic is a popular microcontroller with a lot of resources on the internet.

while AVR is a new and Industry Hot microcontroller..

I suggest you to Go for AVR...

If need links... tell me...

Regards,

Simran..
Can you please send me some links for AVR?
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