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Old 20th November 2007, 03:51 AM   (permalink)
Default Two VSS & Two VDD in PIC 16F877A.

There are two VSS & two VDD in PIC16F877A.

I’m making a PCB for 877A project. What I want to know is they internally connected or not?

Otherwise I have to draw another two PCB tracks from PORTB side VSS & VDD to PORTA side VSS to VDD.
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Old 20th November 2007, 04:11 AM   (permalink)
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They are connected internally, but still, hook up BOTH sets of pins. Absolutely.
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Old 20th November 2007, 04:18 AM   (permalink)
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OMG if they are internally connected why I need to tie them again from outside?
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Old 20th November 2007, 04:25 AM   (permalink)
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It keeps old man Murphy from knocking on your door while you're working on your project.
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Old 20th November 2007, 04:33 AM   (permalink)
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Nothing stops Murphy from knocking. What matters is to keep his old but from entering. Taking care of the low hanging fruits first puts up a get front.

P.S. Many other chips have multiple Vdd and Vss, I using only one of each because I stopped Murphy from even getting out the bed baby.
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Old 20th November 2007, 04:38 AM   (permalink)
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P.S. Many other chips have multiple Vdd and Vss, I using only one of each because I stopped Murphy from even getting out the bed baby.
Thats what I need you have already tried with one VSS & one VDD.

Thanks for that then I can reduce my PCB space too.
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Old 20th November 2007, 04:44 AM   (permalink)
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Don't do it, bad plan. The internal interconnects are very tiny wires, to be reliable you need to hook up both VSS & VDD pins. Of course you didn't skimp on the decoupling caps...
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Old 20th November 2007, 10:15 AM   (permalink)
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I concur, connect ALL Vdd and Vss pins - they aren't there for no reason!.
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Old 21st November 2007, 10:48 AM   (permalink)
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you just use any one VDD and VSS only enough.
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Old 21st November 2007, 11:04 AM   (permalink)
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you just use any one VDD and VSS only enough.
Only if you like to make things that won't be reliable!.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 01:19 AM   (permalink)
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you just use any one VDD and VSS only enough.
Penny wise and pound foolish.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 02:03 AM   (permalink)
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The common culprit is the saying "I have tried that and it works".

Some people jumped from a height of 30 ft and end up unhurt. It works too.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 03:51 AM   (permalink)
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You could have soldered jumpers to bypass your PCB routing problem ten times over in the time it took to post this question.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 04:01 AM   (permalink)
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Hi Guys finally I thought why I standing from one leg Better stand from both.
I coupled PCB tracks from both sides VDD & VSS.

Thanks for your ideas.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 06:41 AM   (permalink)
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Penny wise and pound foolish.

Has not going to post this but this is for you


Anybody want to pic a multiple Vdd/Vss PIC and run a reliability test based on using only 1 Vdd and Vss? Draw a matrix of usages and results, then return with hard statistics that can be varified by third party using said matrix. if not, anything else is vapor.



Back to actually doing something I return.

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