PIC 10F200 programming -- how ? - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

tiny2 · 9th April 2007, 05:58 PM

I want to do a little project with a 10F200. The ones I have are in sot23-6 pin pack. I notice in the release notes of my picstart-plus programmer, it claims to be able to handle these devices with an adaptor (which I don't have).

So does this mean that I can use my picstart-plus with flying leads to programme my 10F200 ? If so, how might I 'connect' the sot23-6 pack to my programmer , ie which pin goes where ?

regards..

justDIY · 9th April 2007, 06:32 PM

the pins go where they're supposed to go. consult the datasheet for a pinout. the 6 pin 10f has the same two serial programming pins as a 144 pin 18f.

you'll probably want to grab (or make) some sot to dip converters, to make interfacing with that small chip a bit easier.

edit: to save the trouble of consulting the datasheet, pgd pin 1, pgc pin 3. supply pins are vdd pin 5, vss pin 2, vpp pin 6.

tiny2 · 9th April 2007, 08:30 PM

Thanks for reply.
I must admit that I've never appreciated how the picstart-plus actually programmes a part, I've just kinda been glad that it does !

Having looked at the data sheet as you suggested, so can I just connect the sot23-6 pack as if it was a pdip pack, but with the pins swapped around ?

Like:-

SOT23 PDIP
pin 1 = pin 5 (ISCPDAT)
pin 2 = pin 7 (Vss)
pin 3 = pin 4 (ISCPCLK)
pin 4 = don't care
pin 5 = pin 2 (Vdd)
pin 6 = pin 8 (MCLR)

I had wondered whether the correct adaptor from microchip had more to it than that.

regards..

**Nigel Goodwin** · 9th April 2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiny2

I had wondered whether the correct adaptor from microchip had more to it than that.

No, it just needs to connect the exact same pins as other PIC's.

RabbitResearch · 10th April 2007, 04:33 AM

Have a look in the "Readme for PICSTART Plus.txt" file ...

Quote:

Section 7
2)Align Pin 1 of the 10F2xx DIP-8 package to Pin 9 of the PicStart Plus.

If you are going to treat it like a DIP, you will want to map it starting at PIN 9 on the PS+

EDIT: I'm using MPLAB7.30 - haven't looked to see if this has changed on later versions ... I bet not but ???

tiny2 · 10th April 2007, 07:07 PM

Thanks all for suggestions.
I think I now understand enough to move forward -- famous last words !

"If you are going to treat it like a DIP, you will want to map it starting at PIN 9 on the PS+" -- thanks for pointing that out :-D

I'll make a little demo pcb with flying leads to connect to the zif socket, with on-board links to isolate the 10F200 programming pins from the demo-board led and switch. At least with that I should be able to prove whether its a workable solution for prototypes.

regards..

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9th April 2007, 05:58 PM	#1
tiny2	PIC 10F200 programming -- how ? I want to do a little project with a 10F200. The ones I have are in sot23-6 pin pack. I notice in the release notes of my picstart-plus programmer, it claims to be able to handle these devices with an adaptor (which I don't have). So does this mean that I can use my picstart-plus with flying leads to programme my 10F200 ? If so, how might I 'connect' the sot23-6 pack to my programmer , ie which pin goes where ? regards..

9th April 2007, 06:32 PM	#2
justDIY	the pins go where they're supposed to go. consult the datasheet for a pinout. the 6 pin 10f has the same two serial programming pins as a 144 pin 18f. you'll probably want to grab (or make) some sot to dip converters, to make interfacing with that small chip a bit easier. edit: to save the trouble of consulting the datasheet, pgd pin 1, pgc pin 3. supply pins are vdd pin 5, vss pin 2, vpp pin 6. __________________ If you don't have a planet, what good are gold bars? want to contact me directly? gmail gordonthree check out my project website: http://projects.dimension-x.net Favorite numbers: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Last edited by justDIY; 9th April 2007 at 06:36 PM.

9th April 2007, 08:30 PM	#3
tiny2	Thanks for reply. I must admit that I've never appreciated how the picstart-plus actually programmes a part, I've just kinda been glad that it does ! Having looked at the data sheet as you suggested, so can I just connect the sot23-6 pack as if it was a pdip pack, but with the pins swapped around ? Like:- SOT23 PDIP pin 1 = pin 5 (ISCPDAT) pin 2 = pin 7 (Vss) pin 3 = pin 4 (ISCPCLK) pin 4 = don't care pin 5 = pin 2 (Vdd) pin 6 = pin 8 (MCLR) I had wondered whether the correct adaptor from microchip had more to it than that. regards..

10th April 2007, 07:07 PM	#6
tiny2	Thanks all for suggestions. I think I now understand enough to move forward -- famous last words ! "If you are going to treat it like a DIP, you will want to map it starting at PIN 9 on the PS+" -- thanks for pointing that out :-D I'll make a little demo pcb with flying leads to connect to the zif socket, with on-board links to isolate the 10F200 programming pins from the demo-board led and switch. At least with that I should be able to prove whether its a workable solution for prototypes. regards..