Pic 16f84 Rb0 St - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

the dude of dudes · 5th November 2006, 04:12 PM

What a cryptic title for a thread! I'm using a 16F84, RB0 is being used to detect the negative edge on the line of an old 8 bit computer I have. I can detect the change fine when polling, but when using it to trigger an interupt it fails. It seems that a Schmitt Trigger is used on RB0 when INTCON, INTE is set, so I am assuming the signal level is too low for the ST. Is there a simple way to boost this signal??

kchriste · 5th November 2006, 06:11 PM

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Is there a simple way to boost this signal??

A 4K7 pullup resistor might be all you need. What are the high/low voltage levels from the old 8 bit computer you have?

jarph · 6th November 2006, 01:38 AM

if the polling works then I don't think it's logic levels. More then likely something is wrong with you code. Make sure the global interrupt is enabled

the dude of dudes · 6th November 2006, 02:12 AM

I get a reading of +1.3v/+0v on my scope. I've found a solution using a MAX232, but I don't have one. The connection is T1IN-T1OUT-R2IN-R2OUT, basically converting TTL-RS232-TTL.

Pommie · 6th November 2006, 03:53 AM

If you have 1.3/0 then a pullup (4.7K as suggested above) to Vdd and a diode between the pin and the signal (Anode to pic input) will give you 5.0/0.7 on the pic input. Much cheaper than a MAX232.

Mike.
edit, woops, no it won't. It will give you 2.0/0.7 unless it's an open collector output in which case you only need the pullup. Worth a try.

eng1 · 6th November 2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by the dude of dudes

I get a reading of +1.3v/+0v on my scope.

Use a saturated bjt as a switch. This circuit performs a logic inversion. If you care of positive/negative rising edge, just change the INTEDG bit.

the dude of dudes · 7th November 2006, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by eng1

Use a saturated bjt as a switch. This circuit performs a logic inversion. If you care of positive/negative rising edge, just change the INTEDG bit.

At first it held the line low, so I dropped the 3.3k resistor and now it works fine! It seems to have doubled the signal voltage. Very nice indeed! Could you please explain the purpose of the resistor tied to GND?

**Nigel Goodwin** · 7th November 2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by the dude of dudes

At first it held the line low, so I dropped the 3.3k resistor and now it works fine! It seems to have doubled the signal voltage. Very nice indeed! Could you please explain the purpose of the resistor tied to GND?

It's to help ensure the transistor turns off properly.

eng1 · 7th November 2006, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the dude of dudes

It seems to have doubled the signal voltage. Very nice indeed!

Actually it's not an amplifier. When the input voltage is 1.3 V, the output equals Vsat of your transistor (LOW). When the input voltage is 0, the output is 5 V (HIGH).
It's a TTL converter for non-TTL signals.

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5th November 2006, 04:12 PM	(permalink)
the dude of dudes	Pic 16f84 Rb0 St What a cryptic title for a thread! I'm using a 16F84, RB0 is being used to detect the negative edge on the line of an old 8 bit computer I have. I can detect the change fine when polling, but when using it to trigger an interupt it fails. It seems that a Schmitt Trigger is used on RB0 when INTCON, INTE is set, so I am assuming the signal level is too low for the ST. Is there a simple way to boost this signal??

6th November 2006, 01:38 AM	(permalink)
jarph	if the polling works then I don't think it's logic levels. More then likely something is wrong with you code. Make sure the global interrupt is enabled

6th November 2006, 02:12 AM	(permalink)
the dude of dudes	I get a reading of +1.3v/+0v on my scope. I've found a solution using a MAX232, but I don't have one. The connection is T1IN-T1OUT-R2IN-R2OUT, basically converting TTL-RS232-TTL.

6th November 2006, 03:53 AM	(permalink)
Pommie	If you have 1.3/0 then a pullup (4.7K as suggested above) to Vdd and a diode between the pin and the signal (Anode to pic input) will give you 5.0/0.7 on the pic input. Much cheaper than a MAX232. Mike. edit, woops, no it won't. It will give you 2.0/0.7 unless it's an open collector output in which case you only need the pullup. Worth a try. Last edited by Pommie; 6th November 2006 at 03:59 AM.