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MARINE1142 · 13th March 2006, 07:34 PM

I got this book from a friend of mine on PIC and wanted to get started on it but cant seem to find a programmer kit with the board,Zip and compliar
does anyone know were to get this I would build it but dont know were to get the board and thought there would be one out on the market faily cheap already made?

philba · 14th March 2006, 01:05 AM

sparkfun.com - plenty of programmers to choose from in a very wide price range.

Russlk · 14th March 2006, 12:14 PM

Check out Elproducts.com. Also, look up Melabs Epic programmer.

This thread may give you some insight: http://www.electro-tech-online.com/v...ic.php?t=20736

MARINE1142 · 14th March 2006, 03:41 PM

One more thing when I get a programmer does it matter if it programs the 18 series of pic what is the differents between the 16 or 18?

bloody-orc · 14th March 2006, 03:42 PM

18... are more complicated and more powerful than 16 series. some have USB suport etcetc.etc. www.microchip.com answers all your questions.

phalanx · 14th March 2006, 06:30 PM

ICD2 all the way. Whether it be Microchip's, a clone like the one from OLIMEX, or a home brew one, the ICD2 is the best value out there. It is very fast, interfaces directly with MPLAB, supports just about every PIC device in existence from the 10F all the way to the dsPIC33F, and it allows you to read the contents of registers directly from the PIC.

If you are serious about programming PICs, it is worth every penny.

Oznog · 14th March 2006, 07:05 PM

I have a Warp13 prog from Newfound Electronics. Very nice, very well documented and fast fast fast! When you program something big like a PIC18 it helps development along when the code flashes so fast.

I ran into trouble awhile back when I had a newer PIC18 and Warp13 didn't support it. The situation persisted for awhile and I laid down the $$$ for the Microchip programmer. I found its programming interface to be less helpful and it's far, far slower. Also no ICP header so I'd need to hack in a wire wrap socket or something. Then like the next week Warp13's page has a software update for supporting the new chip and it bugged the hell outta me.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 14th March 2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oznog

I have a Warp13 prog from Newfound Electronics. Very nice, very well documented and fast fast fast! When you program something big like a PIC18 it helps development along when the code flashes so fast.

I ran into trouble awhile back when I had a newer PIC18 and Warp13 didn't support it. The situation persisted for awhile and I laid down the $$$ for the Microchip programmer. I found its programming interface to be less helpful and it's far, far slower. Also no ICP header so I'd need to hack in a wire wrap socket or something. Then like the next week Warp13's page has a software update for supporting the new chip and it bugged the hell outta me.

Certainly for a good while the Warp13 was discontinued, and he stopped all support and updates for it - there was never any explanation?, but it's good to see it's back again. However, I suspect the ICD2 clones will make it rather pointless now?.

**Jay.slovak** · 14th March 2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by phalanx

ICD2 all the way. Whether it be Microchip's, a clone like the one from OLIMEX, or a home brew one, the ICD2 is the best value out there. It is very fast, interfaces directly with MPLAB, supports just about every PIC device in existence from the 10F all the way to the dsPIC33F, and it allows you to read the contents of registers directly from the PIC.

If you are serious about programming PICs, it is worth every penny.

I totally agree, ICD2 solved all my problems. Now I can program any PIC I want (except 12Cxx which I don't want to :lol: )

MARINE1142 · 14th March 2006, 10:54 PM

The ICD2 board does not have a 40pin zif is that a big deal and what kind of software do I need the book refers to picbasic compliar is that what I need along with this board?

philba · 14th March 2006, 11:34 PM

Most people don't use sockets but rather in-circuit system programming (ICSP). You don't have to pull the chip out and put it in the burner to update the firmware. saves a huge amount of time.

ICD2 is a good recommendation but you can get cheaper. Sparkfun has an ICD2 serial clone for about $50. I'd go for the USB version, though. If you want to go cheap, you can get programmers for less than $20 or you can build one for even less.

Phil

MARINE1142 · 14th March 2006, 11:49 PM

What about this picbasic compilar do still need this program to use the pic?

philba · 15th March 2006, 12:46 AM

No, you don't need to buy a compiler. there are a number free trial versions. start with that. by the time you need the $$$ features, you will know what you need.

However, you should figure out which programming language you should learn (C, asm, Basic, pascal, ...). That's been bashed to death here - seach for "pic compiler"

Mike, K8LH · 15th March 2006, 01:56 AM

My Serial ICD2 Clone (cost approx $10)... Build your own target programming adapter board with 40-pin ZIF socket...

ChriX · 15th March 2006, 02:56 PM

Has anyone had a look at these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-Microchip...QQcmdZViewItem

It seems like good value and have been considering upgrading my P16PRO40 to one.

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13th March 2006, 07:34 PM	#1
MARINE1142	Ready to get PIC programmer I got this book from a friend of mine on PIC and wanted to get started on it but cant seem to find a programmer kit with the board,Zip and compliar does anyone know were to get this I would build it but dont know were to get the board and thought there would be one out on the market faily cheap already made?

14th March 2006, 01:05 AM	#2
philba	sparkfun.com - plenty of programmers to choose from in a very wide price range.

14th March 2006, 12:14 PM	#3
Russlk	Check out Elproducts.com. Also, look up Melabs Epic programmer. This thread may give you some insight: http://www.electro-tech-online.com/v...ic.php?t=20736 __________________ see my website: www.geocities.com/russlk

14th March 2006, 03:41 PM	#4
MARINE1142	One more thing when I get a programmer does it matter if it programs the 18 series of pic what is the differents between the 16 or 18?

14th March 2006, 03:42 PM	#5
bloody-orc	18... are more complicated and more powerful than 16 series. some have USB suport etcetc.etc. www.microchip.com answers all your questions. __________________ Need Help? Press F1 If that doesn\'t help you, ask me... I might know better.

14th March 2006, 06:30 PM	#6
phalanx	ICD2 all the way. Whether it be Microchip's, a clone like the one from OLIMEX, or a home brew one, the ICD2 is the best value out there. It is very fast, interfaces directly with MPLAB, supports just about every PIC device in existence from the 10F all the way to the dsPIC33F, and it allows you to read the contents of registers directly from the PIC. If you are serious about programming PICs, it is worth every penny.

14th March 2006, 07:05 PM	#7
Oznog	I have a Warp13 prog from Newfound Electronics. Very nice, very well documented and fast fast fast! When you program something big like a PIC18 it helps development along when the code flashes so fast. I ran into trouble awhile back when I had a newer PIC18 and Warp13 didn't support it. The situation persisted for awhile and I laid down the $$$ for the Microchip programmer. I found its programming interface to be less helpful and it's far, far slower. Also no ICP header so I'd need to hack in a wire wrap socket or something. Then like the next week Warp13's page has a software update for supporting the new chip and it bugged the hell outta me. __________________ I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.

14th March 2006, 10:54 PM	#10
MARINE1142	The ICD2 board does not have a 40pin zif is that a big deal and what kind of software do I need the book refers to picbasic compliar is that what I need along with this board?

14th March 2006, 11:34 PM	#11
philba	Most people don't use sockets but rather in-circuit system programming (ICSP). You don't have to pull the chip out and put it in the burner to update the firmware. saves a huge amount of time. ICD2 is a good recommendation but you can get cheaper. Sparkfun has an ICD2 serial clone for about $50. I'd go for the USB version, though. If you want to go cheap, you can get programmers for less than $20 or you can build one for even less. Phil

14th March 2006, 11:49 PM	#12
MARINE1142	What about this picbasic compilar do still need this program to use the pic?

15th March 2006, 12:46 AM	#13
philba	No, you don't need to buy a compiler. there are a number free trial versions. start with that. by the time you need the $$$ features, you will know what you need. However, you should figure out which programming language you should learn (C, asm, Basic, pascal, ...). That's been bashed to death here - seach for "pic compiler"

15th March 2006, 01:56 AM	#14
Mike, K8LH	My Serial ICD2 Clone (cost approx $10)... Build your own target programming adapter board with 40-pin ZIF socket... Attached Thumbnails

15th March 2006, 02:56 PM	#15
ChriX	Has anyone had a look at these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-Microchip...QQcmdZViewItem It seems like good value and have been considering upgrading my P16PRO40 to one. __________________ LCDGallery