I was just thinking...and i had this thought...is the inner voice which we all talk to for real??
I do not mean spiritually....i mean is it technically a sound wave??
If yes, then how does it reach our ear??
If no, how do we hear it then??

Please do not ignore my question thinking it to be non-technical...

 

Are the images we see when we day dream actual light waves? Obviously not. If software on your computer is typing words onto the screen for you, does that mean your buttons on your keyboard are actually being pressed? Obviously not.

So, it is not a real sound wave or else other people would hear it too. It's just the brain is simulating electrical signals similar (but not the same) to what the ear produces and then feeding those signals back into itself. It's like a self-controlled hallucination with audio only.

I don't know if you actually talk and have discussions with your inner voice. There's nothing my inner voice knows that I don't already know so no need for discussion. I just vocalize things in your head to lay them out for you. Sort of like how I write something out when planning instead of visualizing it all in my head.

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Tanaka Sensei (avatar) says: Please spell it "ridiculous" correctly! Not "rediculous". ^^

 

Thanx 4 a speedy reply...
The reason i asked this was that..
If this so called " inner voice " actually produce some electrical signal, cant this electrical signal be processed to produce actual sound wave....

 

We're a long way from that, but sure why not. Keep in mind they aren't the same signal and the electrical signals aren't actually audio signals. There's probably a WHOLE lot of other crap mixed into that electrical signal.

It'd probably be way easier just to hook up two brains directly so somsone else can experience what you are experiencing because they are the same medium. It'd be more useful too since there's way more that goes on when we think than just "speaking to ourselves" there's images and all sorts of other crap. It would be way harder to filter out the audio parts of thoughts and then translate it into audio. It'd be like converting video graphics into audio ...doesn't work so well.

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Tanaka Sensei (avatar) says: Please spell it "ridiculous" correctly! Not "rediculous". ^^

 

yup..i agree that connecting two brains is an easier option....but processing someone's inner sound and producing actual sound could give speech to a dumb person...I think the hardest thing is to find out what kind of signal it actually is.....
nyways thanx for 4 replying to my stupid questions.......was just curious to know

 

hey..posted the same question on some other forum as well and someone gave me the following link...http://www.parallelnormal.com/2007/1...eading-device/....
wow...

 

If it was possible someone would be selling them by now.

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A thought controlled prosthetic might be easier than to make a mind-to-audio translator. But we are a long way off from that (the mind-reading anyways...we're getting closer to the mind-controlled prosthetics). I don't know which one would be more important as I do not know what it is like to lose a limb, or to lose my voice.

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Tanaka Sensei (avatar) says: Please spell it "ridiculous" correctly! Not "rediculous". ^^

 

Um, all talk to? I think you might benefit from reading Jaynes' "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind". Most of us don't hear voices like that. Jaynes proposes it is an indication of a more primitive form of human consciousness than the form that most of us enjoy today.

 

I think u have misunderstood what i mean by the inner voice...i dont mean the one which is shown in movies as a duplicate of oneself and we actually talking to him...
I actually mean the voice we hear when we are thinking inside our head or reading something...lol

 

you here voices when you are reading?

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You mean like a stream-of-consciousness thing? Would you really talk to that?

 

Most of our inner thoughts are non-verbal.

Do you think more in words or pictures?

I think, I think more in words but sometimes when I'm thinking about a circuit, I visualise it which is far more powerful; once I can visualise something I can fully understands it but I often have a hard time doing it.

In reality I believe most people don't think in words most of the time, a lot of the time it's pictures and sometimes it's neither words nor pictures. Sometimes I can solve a problem without visualising or figuring it out in words. Some people call this intuition but I don't, I think of it as non-verbal, non-visual reasoning.

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I think theres 2 states.
When i first read something it is as if i am reading aloud but only i can hear.
However if i'm reading a book or whatever after a while when i am fully concentrated i no longer am deafened by my own voice and words flow to pictures or the meaning of words much more quickly and i dont hear my voice so much as i think what is being described by the words.
In the 1st state i think it would be possible to produce sound waves, but not the 2nd. The 2nd state is too subjective to be understood by others.
What i exactly feel and think of when i read the words 'cold blue sea' for example is probably different to what anyone else in the world feels and thinks.
I would bet you have to determidly shout words in your head to get a signal that can be converted to sound waves.

 

That never happens to me, I find reading a chore, it's not something I do for pleasure. I don't understand how some people find in pleasurable.

I always read non-fiction and I prefer looking at schematics and diagrams than sifting through pages of text.

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