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Old 18th July 2009, 10:10 AM   #31
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I hear the voices in my head
swear to god it sounds like they're snoring
If you're so boring that you put the voices in your own head to sleep, it might not be something you'd want to brag about.....
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Old 18th July 2009, 10:12 AM   #32
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Do you really want someone to be able to talk to you 24 hours a day from inside your head?
It's not something I'd want but, when you see people with their cell phones glued to their ear, it's easy to imagine some that would.
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Old 18th July 2009, 10:20 AM   #33
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I suppose that this post could be at least three: the nature of this type of voice, the nature of thought, methods of transferring signals, and ways producing signals.
There are certainly some practical aspects to maniplating the signals but, I suppose there's not much that can be done (at the current sttate of technology) for the naturally occurring voices.
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Old 18th July 2009, 10:21 AM   #34
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shouldnt really make fun of schizophrenics (is that how you spell it?) imagine what would happen if you did ave voices telling you what to do in your head... would you listen?
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Old 24th July 2009, 03:14 AM   #35
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There are certainly some practical aspects to maniplating the signals but, I suppose there's not much that can be done (at the current sttate of technology) for the naturally occurring voices.
I was thinking about something that not only probably won't be able to be done for a while - but something that hopefully also won't be done for a while without permission: coordinating radiation external to peoples' brains in such a way that will produce chemicals associated with thoughts.

Also, maybe I was too quick to suggest that this post be broken up.
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Old 24th July 2009, 06:29 AM   #36
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shouldnt really make fun of schizophrenics (is that how you spell it?) imagine what would happen if you did ave voices telling you what to do in your head... would you listen?
What if the voices are telling you to do good things? Do you still ignor them?
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Old 24th July 2009, 09:52 AM   #37
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What if the voices are telling you to do good things? Do you still ignor them?
Oh, come on! Haven't you ever watched a B horror movie? The voices never tell a person to do good things.....
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Old 24th July 2009, 03:37 PM   #38
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I hear the voices in my head
swear to god it sounds like they're snoring

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If you're so boring that you put the voices in your own head to sleep, it might not be something you'd want to brag about.....
But if you're bored then you're boring
The agony and the irony, they're killing me

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Old 24th July 2009, 09:17 PM   #39
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I hear the voices in my head
swear to god it sounds like they're snoring



But if you're bored then you're boring
The agony and the irony, they're killing me
Are you really hearing voices? I don’t want to come across as a professional who is qualified to assess why you are hearing voices that sound like snoring. You said that they are voices that sound as though they are snoring. When I think of snoring, I usually don’t think of voices. Would you describe the voices in more detail?

I don’t know all of the reasons why people would hear voices that they don’t associate with something physical – such as a person, the origin of vibrations, or a sound machine. If you only hear the voices only when you are in certain locations, then there may be something external causing them associated with those locations. This might also be the case if the voices changed from location to location – where there was no apparent reason why your brain chemistry would be immediately and uniquely effected by those locations. The causes at these locations might be chemical, actual sounds, or maybe even social.

If the origin of the sound is biological – then another question might be are the sounds really snoring sounds or do they just sound like snoring sounds? Could it be a different type of auditory effect than one associated with a region in the brain where snoring happens?

I cannot emphasize enough that I am not a professional in this field. However, it occurred to me that being bored with something might involve a lot of mental activity – perhaps a type of mental activity associated with filtering. Maybe snoring might be a persons’ natural response to being overworked – physically, or paying too much attention to something – perhaps something interesting, etc. I know that socially it can be used to express disinterest. I suppose the question to asked, probably by someone who is more qualified then myself, is what is the cause of it?

I don’t know much about the brain, but I know it is complex. As I understand it, it is interconnected – but the regions in the brain near other regions in the brain may not be the regions that are signaling each other. These are just guesses. I’m not qualified to determine. But if regions of the brain near other regions that had an unrelated functionality started signaling each other then unexpected phenomenon such as snoring might result. And the regions wouldn’t necessarily have to be near each other. This type of effect might be unique from person to person.

What is the function of snoring? Is it a biological or learned behavior? If it is biological, if a person learns that it is blocking out sounds that indicate a threat, can a person learn not to snore. If it is learned – and people instinctually snore to block out sounds determined not to be a threat, could people instinctually do the same when they are awake as a filtering mechanism? Would it qualify as a voluntary, partly voluntary, or involuntary behavior%Proxy-Connection: keep-alive
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If it is biological and instinctual, what else could it be a prolonged reaction to? These are all just speculations. However, out of curiosity, can you increase or decrease the amount of snoring?

When you say agony and irony, are you referring to the people who are responding to your post or the voices?

Again, please do not accept anything that I have wrote in this post as identifying the cause.
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Old 25th July 2009, 02:17 PM   #40
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Those are the lyrics from a Harvey Danger song, "Flagpole Sitta". Made the top 40 in 1998. Used as the theme to British comedy "Peep Show", used in the films "American Pie" and "Disturbing Behavior", used in the TV series "October Road" and "Psyche".

I'm assuming you and crashsite live in a cave somewhere...
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Old 25th July 2009, 04:08 PM   #41
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What if those voices encouraging you to good things as just a positive form of schizophrenia or some other mental disorder normally normally associated with bad thoughts or actions?

Could they be the foundation or source of religious experiences or other phenomenon related to people being overwhelmingly compelled to do a kind act that not normally in their nature or best interest?

Red Dwarf positive virus theory. That is that one could assume there are positive viruses the have rather opposite effects to what are normally considers negative effect viruses.

Its just a theory my positive voices came up with!
(I personaly could care less.)
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Old 25th July 2009, 08:04 PM   #42
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Are the images we see when we day dream actual light waves? Obviously not. If software on your computer is typing words onto the screen for you, does that mean your buttons on your keyboard are actually being pressed? Obviously not.

So, it is not a real sound wave or else other people would hear it too. It's just the brain is simulating electrical signals similar (but not the same) to what the ear produces and then feeding those signals back into itself. It's like a self-controlled hallucination with audio only.

I don't know if you actually talk and have discussions with your inner voice. There's nothing my inner voice knows that I don't already know so no need for discussion. I just vocalize things in your head to lay them out for you. Sort of like how I write something out when planning instead of visualizing it all in my head.

good point...
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Old 26th July 2009, 02:32 PM   #43
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Red Dwarf positive virus theory. That is that one could assume there are positive viruses the have rather opposite effects to what are normally considers negative effect viruses.
That's hardly science fiction. Virtually all viruses and bacteria and creepy crawlies are either benign or helpful. But, the few that aren't...Yikes!

I often have conversations with the voices in my head. I find that it gives me both an interesting and informative speaker and an intelligent and attentive audience. Quite refreshing, actually relative to most human encounters.
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Old 27th July 2009, 03:15 AM   #44
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good point...
I agree that it is a good point. I also thought of two possible exceptions. What if the physiological cause of the voices or snoring was a mechanical vibration - such as the result of unconsciously stimulating the voice box or unconscious joint movements that produced waves - associated with the sounds that have been described, that was conducted through the body? However, I don’t know if these would qualify as sounds because I don’t know of the path of these waves to where sound is detected – and where on the sound detection mechanism they would have an effect.
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Old 27th July 2009, 03:34 AM   #45
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What if those voices encouraging you to good things as just a positive form of schizophrenia or some other mental disorder normally normally associated with bad thoughts or actions?

Could they be the foundation or source of religious experiences or other phenomenon related to people being overwhelmingly compelled to do a kind act that not normally in their nature or best interest?

Red Dwarf positive virus theory. That is that one could assume there are positive viruses the have rather opposite effects to what are normally considers negative effect viruses.

Its just a theory my positive voices came up with!
(I personaly could care less.)
I think that is interesting. However, there may be different definitions of what constitutes a religious experience. I usually think of religion in a sense that involves a group of people or social interactions. This is probably too conservative of a view to really appreciate a religious experience that may be more personal in nature. But does an experience have to be recognized by others as religious before it can popularly or properly be considered something other than personal psychological phenomenon? I think that it is unfortunate that this may be the case. Still, in these cases, the neurological activity associated with the personal psychological phenomenon and the neurological activity associated with the social interactions reinforcing the view that the phenomenon is in fact religious might not be separate and result in effects that are distinct from the activity associated with either of these two active regions considered separately.
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