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williB · 23rd September 2006, 05:42 PM

can we use latex math symbols on ETO
if so we need to get to know them
$/int$

i guess not , this should have been the integral symbol
unless i did it wrong

_nox_ · 23rd September 2006, 05:49 PM

hmmm - use www.forkosh.com/mimetex.html, save the image , upload to imageshack.us and include the link here in ETO.

Pommie · 24th September 2006, 01:22 AM

Was you after ∫. The only way I know to insert them is to open character map (start, all programs, accessories, system tools) select Arial Black as the font, scroll down to find ∫ and copy and paste. There are lots of useful ones there such as Ω ∏ ∑ √ ∞ ∂.

Mike.

_nox_ · 24th September 2006, 08:49 AM

But LaTeX is much nicer...

Hero999 · 24th September 2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

Was you after ∫. The only way I know to insert them is to open character map (start, all programs, accessories, system tools) select Arial Black as the font, scroll down to find ∫ and copy and paste..

Which isn't much help if you don't use Windows.

Pommie · 24th September 2006, 11:16 PM

Does your operating system not have a font viewer? How would you insert characters into your reply here?

Mike.

hjames · 25th September 2006, 04:50 AM

If you need a cut and paste source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode...ical_Operators
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_alphabet

Ωμθ∞≥⊃∃∆∬

And if you're interested in the whole can of worms that is UTF and unicode:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utf-8
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html

The fun part is being able to load http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/e...UTF-8-demo.txt
in a mlterm (linux) window and seeing actual *runes* floating around in there.

references:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/
google for "linux utf8"

Hero999 · 25th September 2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

Does your operating system not have a font viewer? How would you insert characters into your reply here?

It does have a character selector, it's just a web page is often more convenient. Also, character map can be a problem as there's a danger as it is possible to uses non-standard characters which won't work on other OSes.

hjames,
I've noticed that half the characters there are square boxes, and I've tried viewing the page in both Linux and Windows using several browsers, do you get the same problem?

evandude · 25th September 2006, 02:03 PM

there's a bit of a difference between sticking in greek characters, and actually formatting equations with LaTeX.

for instance, from http://crab.rutgers.edu/~karel/latex/class4/class4.html
something like:
\frac{d}{dx}\left( \int_{0}^{x} f(u)\,du\right)=f(x).

becomes:

granted, most of the discussion on this forum is project ideas and conceptual stuff, not very much detailed math, so having such functionality isn't exactly necessary, but it would still be cool because LaTeX rocks

hjames · 25th September 2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero999

It does have a character selector, it's just a web page is often more convenient. Also, character map can be a problem as there's a danger as it is possible to uses non-standard characters which won't work on other OSes.

hjames,
I've noticed that half the characters there are square boxes, and I've tried viewing the page in both Linux and Windows using several browsers, do you get the same problem?

Which page?
I'm on my windows machine right now and the "math operators" page only displays most of the first table (the last row seems to be mangled), the remaining tables are all question marked out. The Greek page displays fine, but there do seem to be a couple blocks of unknown characters which are mangled in the utf-8-demo file. I just tried installing some random unicode font (everson mono - seems to have a shareware license attached) which added a couple more characters - the runes and some of the block drawing characters, but the ethiopian and braille are still blanked out...

I'm pretty sure it's a matter of fonts and encoding - if you have the wrong encoding set (i.e. not UTF8), the browser is going to try and guess, and if you don't have the font installed, the browser is going to have to draw a placeholder. Firefox seems to be drawing question marks, I remember an older Mozilla browser drawing a square with the actual character code in hex in there.

On my Linux box (where I've purposely installed unicode fonts) I can load that utf-8-demo file in a terminal and see the entire page including curly brackets and properly aligned drawing elements. I'll try opening up the file in Mozilla (on Linux) when I get a chance. +edit: The Linux box seems to do all the characters in the utf-8-demo properly with some alignment errors.
James

hjames · 25th September 2006, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evandude

there's a bit of a difference between sticking in greek characters, and actually formatting equations with LaTeX.

for instance, from http://crab.rutgers.edu/~karel/latex/class4/class4.html
something like:
\frac{d}{dx}\left( \int_{0}^{x} f(u)\,du\right)=f(x).

becomes:

granted, most of the discussion on this forum is project ideas and conceptual stuff, not very much detailed math, so having such functionality isn't exactly necessary, but it would still be cool because LaTeX rocks

I remember hearing about mathml - but I've never really looked into it until now. It looks like the default entry format is LaTeX, but I'm not even going to try to attempt to use it.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/math...texvsmml.xhtml
http://pear.math.pitt.edu/mathzilla/...ftheWeek.mhtml

Agreed about the coolness of LaTeX - a couple years back I turned in the problem sets for one of my math classes all typeset using LaTeX. Haven't needed to use it much since then though.

**ElectroMaster** · 26th September 2006, 01:53 AM

Hi guys,

Ive been working on integrating latex into eto and will have it complete shortly. I am also working on special characters as well.

~phil

**ElectroMaster** · 26th September 2006, 02:07 AM

it works! it works!

Well that was quicker than anticipated. I was stuck on a server problem with adding this and just solved it. Latex is now fully functional on ETO.

I will post an intro to it and make it a sticky.

Enjoy.

Pommie · 26th September 2006, 02:40 AM

$f(x)=\frac{Top}{Bottom}$

Mike.

bananasiong · 19th October 2006, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

$f(x)=\frac{Top}{Bottom}$

Mike.

You didn't start with "[ latex ]" and end with "[ /latex ]".. (no spacing between the word latex and the "[]"..

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23rd September 2006, 05:42 PM	(permalink)
williB	Latex math symbols can we use latex math symbols on ETO if so we need to get to know them $/int$ i guess not , this should have been the integral symbol unless i did it wrong

23rd September 2006, 05:49 PM	(permalink)
_nox_	hmmm - use www.forkosh.com/mimetex.html, save the image , upload to imageshack.us and include the link here in ETO. __________________ i² = j² = k² = ijk = -1

24th September 2006, 01:22 AM	(permalink)
Pommie	Was you after ∫. The only way I know to insert them is to open character map (start, all programs, accessories, system tools) select Arial Black as the font, scroll down to find ∫ and copy and paste. There are lots of useful ones there such as Ω ∏ ∑ √ ∞ ∂. Mike.

24th September 2006, 08:49 AM	(permalink)
_nox_	But LaTeX is much nicer... __________________ i² = j² = k² = ijk = -1

24th September 2006, 11:16 PM	(permalink)
Pommie	Does your operating system not have a font viewer? How would you insert characters into your reply here? Mike.

25th September 2006, 04:50 AM	(permalink)
hjames	If you need a cut and paste source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode...ical_Operators http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_alphabet Ωμθ∞≥⊃∃∆∬ And if you're interested in the whole can of worms that is UTF and unicode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utf-8 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html The fun part is being able to load http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/e...UTF-8-demo.txt in a mlterm (linux) window and seeing actual runes floating around in there. references: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/ google for "linux utf8"

25th September 2006, 02:03 PM	(permalink)
evandude	there's a bit of a difference between sticking in greek characters, and actually formatting equations with LaTeX. for instance, from http://crab.rutgers.edu/~karel/latex/class4/class4.html something like: \frac{d}{dx}\left( \int_{0}^{x} f(u)\,du\right)=f(x). becomes: granted, most of the discussion on this forum is project ideas and conceptual stuff, not very much detailed math, so having such functionality isn't exactly necessary, but it would still be cool because LaTeX rocks __________________ EEgeek.net

26th September 2006, 01:53 AM	(permalink)
ElectroMaster	Hi guys, Ive been working on integrating latex into eto and will have it complete shortly. I am also working on special characters as well. ~phil __________________ ▌ Electro Tech Online Owner ▌ Need to contact me? Send me a Private Message. ▌ Verification Email didn't arrive? See this thread.

26th September 2006, 02:07 AM	(permalink)
ElectroMaster	it works! it works! Well that was quicker than anticipated. I was stuck on a server problem with adding this and just solved it. Latex is now fully functional on ETO. I will post an intro to it and make it a sticky. Enjoy. __________________ ▌ Electro Tech Online Owner ▌ Need to contact me? Send me a Private Message. ▌ Verification Email didn't arrive? See this thread.

26th September 2006, 02:40 AM	(permalink)
Pommie	$f(x)=\frac{Top}{Bottom}$ Mike. Last edited by Pommie; 30th September 2006 at 06:15 AM.