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Old 21st October 2009, 12:08 AM   #16
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The max input for a uA7805 is 30V but a max of 25V is recommended by Texas Instruments.
It reduces its max output current when it has more than 20V input.
The Fairchild 7805 is rated for 35V input. I thought that was the industry standard spec.

http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...ild/LM7805.pdf

NSC is also 35V.

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/LM7805-datasheet.html#

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Old 21st October 2009, 12:13 AM   #17
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Nigel:
OMG, than my 7805 is done for sure
I think I should change the transformer right away!!
RUN!!!
The 7805 will probably survive because it has built in thermal limiting. The external transistor will get melted.
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Old 21st October 2009, 03:52 AM   #18
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This is from the latest datasheet for Texas Instruments uA7800 series regulators:
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Old 21st October 2009, 04:57 AM   #19
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Can somebody explain about the bridge rectifier phenomena?


I found after limiting the regulator current to a 100mA (to be very safe), the regulator is in peace (cool & steady), and yes, the transistor now has an additional burden due to the increasing of collector current.
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Old 21st October 2009, 04:59 AM   #20
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output transistor is after the regulator.
High Current Voltage Regulation - Electric Circuit
I guess it can be done either way??
I can't reach the page..
Is it removed?
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Old 21st October 2009, 05:34 AM   #21
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I can't reach the page..
Is it removed?
The page shows a MJE3055 power transistor as an emitter-follower after a voltage regulator IC. It has poor voltage regulation.
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Old 21st October 2009, 06:13 AM   #22
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This is from the latest datasheet for Texas Instruments uA7800 series regulators:
Sometimes one guy will make a second source that deviates from industry standard specs. I know the original spec was 35 because I did the data sheets at Fairchild and later at NSC. Fairchild originated the 78XX family, NSC later second sourced it with a part family called the LM340-XX. The problem was the 78XX was already industry standard so NSC altered their data sheets to match the 78XX specs. If that wasn't enough, they eventually marked all their parts with both part numbers (LM340-XX and LM78XX) to make sure the parts were universally recognized. At one point, the data sheet also carried both numbers.

I don't know why TI dropped the spec but I'll wager it's because their process wasn't capable of making the 35V breakdown spec so they just changed their data sheet hoping most people wouldn't care. And most won't because the the world keeps going to lower and lower voltages. The 78XX series in general is obsolete and doesn't run much volume any more compared to the newer stuff. It also has razor thin profit margins which is why the product lines at NSC kept kicking them to other departments because nobody wanted them in their portfolio where they dragged down ASPs and total profit marging for the product line.

Interesting: the data sheet I put together at NSC is still there and it still shows both products specified together:

http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM340.pdf

The abs max rating on VIN is 35V. That was the original industry standard spec for the product.
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