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limlik · 5th July 2009, 05:24 PM

Knowing what resistor to use is way to confusing for me. I thought I had figured it out. But then I started taking junk apart and trying to figure things out. I have run into a confusing issue. Almost every white 5mm LED I have used/seen requires 3.6ish V to 4.0 V max, but I have seen them with 5V going to it with just a resistor on it. Why isn't that LED burning out? Or is it the max current that matters?

ericgibbs · 5th July 2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by limlik

Knowing what resistor to use is way to confusing for me. I thought I had figured it out. But then I started taking junk apart and trying to figure things out. I have run into a confusing issue. Almost every white 5mm LED I have used/seen requires 3.6ish V to 4.0 V max, but I have seen them with 5V going to it with just a resistor on it. Why isn't that LED burning out? Or is it the max current that matters?

The value of the resistor is chosen so that it limits the current thru the led to the specified value.

Typically 10mA to 20mA for standard leds.

limlik · 5th July 2009, 06:04 PM

Ok, but why does it say a max voltage and yet I see LEDs being used with a higher voltage?

ericgibbs · 5th July 2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by limlik

Ok, but why does it say a max voltage and yet I see LEDs being used with a higher voltage?

The resistor drops the higher voltage down to the lower voltage for the led.

Example: say the white led is rated at 4V at 20mA and you have a 5V supply, you need to drop 1 volt across the resistor.

Ohms Law says R= V/I ,, Res= 1V / 0.02 = 50 ohms

So, subtract the led voltage from the supply voltage and divide the answer by the led current.. answer in ohms

OK.?

limlik · 5th July 2009, 06:54 PM

So hooking a 2.6v max red LED 60 mA to a 4.5v power supply I would need a?

ericgibbs · 5th July 2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by limlik

So hooking a 2.6v max red LED 60 mA to a 4.5v power supply I would need a?

A standard RED led would only handle about 20mA

So 4.5V - 2.6V = 1.9V so Resistor is 1.9v/0.02 = 95R say 100ohm

limlik · 5th July 2009, 07:06 PM

Isn't a standard red LED, misread is 50 mA, it is a full color LED.

jimmythefool · 5th July 2009, 07:08 PM

Current limiting Resistor calculator for leds is a useful site

Jim

ericgibbs · 5th July 2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by limlik

Isn't a standard red LED, misread is 50 mA, it is a full color LED.

All you have to do is:

So 4.5V - 2.6V = 1.9V so Resistor is 1.9v/0.05 = 38R say 39R

limlik · 5th July 2009, 07:16 PM

Ok, so before I go trying something dumb with these I want to double check that I am reading the info correctly. When the box says FW supply this means?

ericgibbs · 5th July 2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by limlik

Ok, so before I go trying something dumb with these I want to double check that I am reading the info correctly. When the box says FW supply this means?

Do you mW milliWatts?

limlik · 5th July 2009, 07:35 PM

it says "FW Supply: 2.0V Typical, 2.6V max (Red)

RODALCO · 6th July 2009, 12:54 AM

FW supply means the voltage drop across the LED measured from the posistive to the negative.

A LED act like a zener so for 2.0 Volts the LED will be bright.

When at 2.6 Volts the LED will be at it's maximum voltage and perhaps a little brighter.

It is always good practise to underrun the stated LED max. currents and max. voltages.

20 mA LED run at 15 mA
2.4 Volts across LED in above example.

Boncuk · 6th July 2009, 02:37 AM

Hi limlik,

may be you can use this little schematic for better understanding.

If the calculated resistor value is not a standard value, e.g. 170Ω, use the next higher standard value (180Ω) - never a lower one!

Boncuk

Hero999 · 6th July 2009, 06:47 PM

Always use the nominal voltage drop, not the maximum voltage drop and use the recommended operating current not the absolute maximum.

Round the resistor up to the next preferred value not down, especially if you're using a current close to the maximum. For example, if you calculate 50R, use 56R rather than 47R.

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5th July 2009, 05:24 PM	#1
limlik	Resistors and LEDs.... Knowing what resistor to use is way to confusing for me. I thought I had figured it out. But then I started taking junk apart and trying to figure things out. I have run into a confusing issue. Almost every white 5mm LED I have used/seen requires 3.6ish V to 4.0 V max, but I have seen them with 5V going to it with just a resistor on it. Why isn't that LED burning out? Or is it the max current that matters?

5th July 2009, 06:04 PM	#3
limlik	Ok, but why does it say a max voltage and yet I see LEDs being used with a higher voltage?

5th July 2009, 06:54 PM	#5
limlik	So hooking a 2.6v max red LED 60 mA to a 4.5v power supply I would need a?

5th July 2009, 07:06 PM	#7
limlik	Isn't a standard red LED, misread is 50 mA, it is a full color LED.

5th July 2009, 07:08 PM	#8
jimmythefool	Current limiting Resistor calculator for leds is a useful site Jim

5th July 2009, 07:16 PM	#10
limlik	Ok, so before I go trying something dumb with these I want to double check that I am reading the info correctly. When the box says FW supply this means?

5th July 2009, 07:35 PM	#12
limlik	it says "FW Supply: 2.0V Typical, 2.6V max (Red)

6th July 2009, 12:54 AM	#13
RODALCO	FW supply means the voltage drop across the LED measured from the posistive to the negative. A LED act like a zener so for 2.0 Volts the LED will be bright. When at 2.6 Volts the LED will be at it's maximum voltage and perhaps a little brighter. It is always good practise to underrun the stated LED max. currents and max. voltages. 20 mA LED run at 15 mA 2.4 Volts across LED in above example. __________________ There are more ways to get to Rome. Electricity, Electric clocks, Meters and Trains are great. Please don't sent me private messages, I will not answer them. The questions asked can be discussed in the open forums. http://www.youtube.com/user/RODALCO2007 some interesting electrical stuff to watch.

6th July 2009, 02:37 AM	#14
Boncuk	Hi limlik, may be you can use this little schematic for better understanding. If the calculated resistor value is not a standard value, e.g. 170Ω, use the next higher standard value (180Ω) - never a lower one! Boncuk Attached Thumbnails __________________ Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance Last edited by Boncuk; 6th July 2009 at 02:39 AM.

6th July 2009, 06:47 PM	#15
Hero999	Always use the nominal voltage drop, not the maximum voltage drop and use the recommended operating current not the absolute maximum. Round the resistor up to the next preferred value not down, especially if you're using a current close to the maximum. For example, if you calculate 50R, use 56R rather than 47R. __________________ I do not answer private messages asking for help because no one else can: benefit from advice I may give or correct me if I'm wrong. Please ask on the open forum if you have a question and I'll be happy to help, if I know the answer.