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Hey guys, I'm building a circuit for my class but I'm not totally sure how I go about choosing the best amp for the job. all I want to do is amplify the input from 3mV to about 3V. Is there a spec I should work off or is it just a case of looking at data sheets and trial and error? any help would be great! cheers, Iain | |
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Is this signal dc or ac? If ac, what is the frequency range. If dc, are you concerned about dc offset? Do you care if it inverts the signal polarity? What is the amplifier output load? What is the signal source impedance? What power supplies do you have?
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Is that peak-to-peak or RMS?
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signal is DC not really concerned about DC offset signal source impedance is 500 Ohms power supply is 5V from USB source not sure about inverting polarity or amp load cheers | |
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for a 5v rail voltage, best to use a TL062 or other low voltage op amp, or even better a rail-to-rail op amp (sorry, can't think of the number for one right away). try searching the TI, Analog Devices, or National Semiconductors websites for "rail to rail op amp" or "low voltage op amp" Analog Technologies, Semiconductors, Digital Signal Processing - Texas Instruments, Analog Devices, Inc. |Converters Amplifiers Processors MEMS A/D Converters Analog to Digital Video Converter Temperature Sensors Analog Device RF Amplifiers Differential Amplifiers Digital Signal Processing Thermal Management D to A Converters Micro, www.national.com
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I went out and bought an LM324. was this a huge mistake? haha | |
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| hi, A LM324 with a +5V supply will give an output of Vs-1.5V = 3.5V, so it can amplify a signal to +3V.
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Are you sure about that 3mv input level? That is really small, and you will have to worry about outside noise. What is your source that only produces 3mv?
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that was an estimate. The input is between 0.01V - 5V It’s not a consistent source it's a piezo transducer used as a drum trigger | |
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Dont want to twitter, but why couldnt you put this information in your first post.?? You cant amplify 0.01Vin and 5Vin to give you +3Vout on the same OPA
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hey eric, apologies, I just was trying to concentrate on op-amp. Do I need to amplify at all, I just assumed I would. I saw the schematic on edrum.info (http://edrum.info/files/analog8_v06.gif) and that led me to choose the LM324. I was considering using a schmidt trigger to change the signal to a digital signal | |
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| piezo transducers have much higher source impedance than 500 ohms, and the input bias current of an LM324 is high, and it's not a rail-to rail op amp. a TL062 would have been a better choice because of the lower input bias current. although an LM324 will work at 5V, i suspect you will be "underwhelmed" with the results
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