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    I would like to build a variable +/- power supply from a 15volt wall wart.

    Can i put in a full wave rectifier or just a half wave?

    If i can where does the ground go?


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    Is the wall wart AC or DC out?
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    sorry yeah ac ... for a dual supply

    edit: thanks for the quick reply
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    You need two half waves- to separate the positive and negative AC from each if you want a dual supply. A full-wave would just grab take both the positive and negative AC and make it one polarity.
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    ok thanks

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    YOu could also use two full-wave rectifiers to do the same thing. Added complexity though and since you want a dual supply, you have a use for both positive and negative waveform. (If you only needed one polarity, using a half-wave would make no use of every half cycle and also increase output ripple).

    Two full-wave rectifiers would produce a smoother output though. (Rather than grabbing every second cycle for positive or negative output like dual half-waves, it would take each half cycle whether it be positive or negative, and split it between positive and negative output.)
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    This circuit will work, for a ripple of 2V use 1000:mu:F per 100mA of load current.

    The output voltage will be just over 20V.

    If you want 15V add an LM78L15 and LM79L15.

    The capacitor values shown below with the aforementioned regulators added will be able to supply up to 100mA with 15V in.


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    So that would be half wave yes? Is there and way of makeing that full wave without resorting to a centre tap transformer?

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    Im thinking i should just forget the wall wart... wanted to go that route as i didnt want to dable in 230v...

    Hot does this one look to you guys? Seems simple enough


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    It seems simple enough

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    Read my previous post!

    You can't use a centre tapped transformer because I thought you were using a wallwart and those things don't have a centre tap.

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    No center tap on a wall power pack?
    It must be a UK thing. I have taken dozens of them apart for specialty projects and I would confidently say at least 3/4 of them have center taps around here.

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    Yeah thats why i was saying i think i should forget that route.

    The power supply will be needed to run at +/-9v to run 6 of these (see link) in place of the 9 volt batteries.
    Singing plants, advice please.

    The reason i want to make it variable is so i can run it in other projects later.

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    The circuit you posted from Aaron Cake's site has the wrong values for its voltage-setting resistors and pots. It has the values for the more expensive LM117 and LM137 regulators. Using those values with LM317 and LM337 regulators will cause the output voltages to rise when the load current is low.
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    ooohhh not good, thanks for the heads up Mr audio

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    If your planning to run other things off of it you may want to think about building it with two transformers. That way you can stack them if you need dual voltage or a higher voltage and they could be or put in parallel for more current. Plus your total available power is higher.
    The total parts are about the same but you would gain some added versatility. If you needed two independent power sources you would have them available too.
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