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    InductorNoob,

    I'm going to ask an obvious question. What happened to your inductor? Chances are, the regulator was over-driven and the inductor over-heated and fell of the pcb. Components can, at times, draw enough heat to melt the solder. I'm just curious if it's sitting inside your computer somewhere. We just have the "before" picture. Are there burn marks around the pads? I'm afraid you may have more damage, but it could be a simple matter of locating your inductor, meausuring it and putting it back on. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezer View Post
    Besides, he can't measure the 3.3uH inductor, it's missing. Read his first post.
    Believe it or not, I also read the first post.

    According to the photo I can neither discover any missing part, nor any burnt spot on the PCB. I suspect the missing part did not evaporate.

    The OP didn't clearly describe where the part was located.

    Concerning an assumption it is one until it's proved.

    L. Chung had the prove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boncuk View Post

    Concerning an assumption it is one until it's proved.

    L. Chung had the prove.

    Boncuk
    That's true, but I made no assumption. What I said was accurate. People post all day long on this forum without giving proof for their opinion, and that's OK. But don't take what I say as the gospel truth. You can research it for yourself and if I happen to be wrong, then we both learned something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boncuk View Post
    According to the photo I can neither discover any missing part, nor any burnt spot on the PCB. I suspect the missing part did not evaporate.
    The OP didn't clearly describe where the part was located.
    I was confused about that at the start too. My interpretation is that InductorNoob removed the inductor after taking the picture:
    Quote Originally Posted by InductorNoob View Post
    This is a close-up of the area which contains the (now missing) inductor:
    I gotta admit that it's pretty cryptic.
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    According to his post, it was missing when he removed it from the bay after hooking up the wrong power. That's how I read it anyway. But one thing I haven't figured out is, why did he have a photo before it was damaged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezer View Post
    According to his post, it was missing when he removed it from the bay after hooking up the wrong power. That's how I read it anyway. But one thing I haven't figured out is, why did he have a photo before it was damaged?

    Maybe he has 2 matching Drives. Not the smartest thing to do but I Strip mine and all I would have to do is show the second one.


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    Well, that should have been obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezer View Post
    That is a fiducial I believe.
    Yes, it's fiduciary...Not actually my board, but a comparative example which I dug up on Google images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rezer View Post
    InductorNoob,

    I'm going to ask an obvious question. What happened to your inductor? Chances are, the regulator was over-driven and the inductor over-heated and fell of the pcb. Components can, at times, draw enough heat to melt the solder. I'm just curious if it's sitting inside your computer somewhere. We just have the "before" picture. Are there burn marks around the pads? I'm afraid you may have more damage, but it could be a simple matter of locating your inductor, meausuring it and putting it back on. Just a thought.
    I apologize for making multiple quote posts, but to answer your question: This photo is is just a representation. I found the image via Google and posted it for reference...That is why I had to photoshop (poorly) what it looks like now.

    The close-up picture (with the inductor intact) is a zoomed-in view of the upper left-hand quadrant of the entire PCB. This inductor (labeled 3R3) is what is now missing. There is another 3R3 inductor on the PCB also, if that makes any difference.

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    One last question to all : I know I've been asked for the code on the IC nearest the inductor, but it is almost impossible to read and I cannot get the loupe back. Is there anywhere else on the PCB (such as the main IC) that I could find some information to get the data sheet we're looking for?

    Again, thanks!

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    No, not really. The little IC next to the inductor is most likely the switching regulator associated with the inductor. Can you read the number on the other IC next to the other 3R3 inductor? That might help also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kchriste View Post
    No, not really. The little IC next to the inductor is most likely the switching regulator associated with the inductor. Can you read the number on the other IC next to the other 3R3 inductor? That might help also.
    The code on the IC near the 3R3 inductor (the one located on the lower right hand quadrant) is as follows:

    f PG7HT
    FDFS
    6*303

    I don't know if that means anything. I'll be posting the info on the other IC's within the next 24 hours.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by InductorNoob View Post
    The code on the IC near the 3R3 inductor (the one located on the lower right hand quadrant) is as follows:

    f PG7HT
    FDFS
    6*303

    I don't know if that means anything. I'll be posting the info on the other IC's within the next 24 hours.

    Thanks!

    - Josh
    This would be my first guess on what that part is: http://www.digchip.com/datasheets/pa.../FDFS6N303.php

    A quick scan of the datasheet indicates that this might be a reasonable guess since it's a combined MOSFET/Schottky diode IC ideal for use in low-board-space DC-DC converters. It looks different from the IC near the missing inductor, though.

    Disclaimer: I am in no way, shape, or form an expert on switchmode power supplies. I just like researching thing.


    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by InductorNoob View Post
    The close-up picture (with the inductor intact) is a zoomed-in view of the upper left-hand quadrant of the entire PCB. This inductor (labeled 3R3) is what is now missing. There is another 3R3 inductor on the PCB also, if that makes any difference.

    Yes, it's understood which part was missing. Do you know what happened to your missing inductor? Floor, computer case, trash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezer View Post
    Yes, it's understood which part was missing. Do you know what happened to your missing inductor? Floor, computer case, trash?
    Presumably it can't have gone *too* far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Torben View Post
    Presumably it can't have gone *too* far.


    Torben
    Unless the trash has already been picked up. If it can be found, it would be worth seeing it its' salvagable. Since it fell off the board, we know it's not open, shorted is a different story. But I suspect if there is damage, it's in his regulator and not the inductor.
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