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Old 14th August 2008, 12:03 PM   (permalink)
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LOL yeah that and a morning smoke, nothing better than a double shot of carcinogens to start your day off right..
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Cigarette smoke is far worse then the solder smoke. Nigel has better info, but for the most part the fumes from solder are more or less harmless. The fumes are generated by the flux not the metal. If the lead and lead free solder use the same flux there will be no difference. Depending on what flux is used in the lead free solder, it could be worse.
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Old 14th August 2008, 12:26 PM   (permalink)
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Cigarette smoke is far worse then the solder smoke. Nigel has better info, but for the most part the fumes from solder are more or less harmless. The fumes are generated by the flux not the metal. If the lead and lead free solder use the same flux there will be no difference. Depending on what flux is used in the lead free solder, it could be worse.
Yes, nothing particularly dangerous in fumes from soldering - the cause for concern over it was a VERY slight chance of the flux fumes triggering an asthma attack - although incidences of this were incredibly low, and ONLY in a production environment.

However, but because of this very slight chance extraction systems were developed, and the flux changed to a far less effective type, which doesn't cause the possible problem at all.
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Old 14th August 2008, 01:27 PM   (permalink)
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I love the smell of leaded solder in the morning.
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Old 14th August 2008, 05:16 PM   (permalink)
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I turn on the ceiling fan when soldering. I do however keep my fish tank in a different room.
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Old 14th August 2008, 06:59 PM   (permalink)
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Here in the EU you can't buy lead solder but I've never used lead free because I've got loads of lead solder left over.
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Old 14th August 2008, 08:05 PM   (permalink)
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Here in the EU you can't buy lead solder but I've never used lead free because I've got loads of lead solder left over.
Everyone bought rolls of it when rumours started that it was been discontinued !

However, this was false - it's still freely available - check RS Components for loads of different types of leaded solder.
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Old 14th August 2008, 09:11 PM   (permalink)
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well if your lungs can stand breathing complex-hydrocarbons from the infernal combustion cars-way..why give up smoking or the soldering fumes?
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Old 14th August 2008, 09:25 PM   (permalink)
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As Nigel points out , numerous types of solder are about. A couple of jobs I do require a high-flux variety and at the end of my working day the final chore is to use a heat gun to melt the gunk out of the extraction tube. Sometimes the 6mm tube atop the iron is blocked completely before then and my lab coat smells to the point my partner Julie thought I had changed my brand of cigars.

For the average hobbyist using a desk fan is more than adequate provided you not doing to much in a confined space, however there is some kudos to be gained if you build your own extraction system with filters.
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Old 14th August 2008, 10:03 PM   (permalink)
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There is only one leaded solder: Kester #44 63/37 core 66. All others bow down before it.

As an aside, there is an "audiophile" "quad-eutectic" solder made by Cardas (well known snake oil company). Does anyone know what the eutectic blend is for SnPbCuAg solder is?
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Old 14th August 2008, 10:09 PM   (permalink)
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Theres also the cheap Chinese solder for only a buck altho I question the quality
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Old 14th August 2008, 10:12 PM   (permalink)
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well if your lungs can stand breathing complex-hydrocarbons from the infernal combustion cars-way..why give up smoking or the soldering fumes?
Because complex hydrocarbons are more volatile than solder fumes which don't get absorbed into the blood and are more effectively removed by the nose and respiratory tract.
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Old 14th August 2008, 10:16 PM   (permalink)
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I love the smell of leaded solder in the morning.
Smells like...freedom.

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Old 14th August 2008, 10:16 PM   (permalink)
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There is only one leaded solder: Kester #44 63/37 core 66. All others bow down before it.

As an aside, there is an "audiophile" "quad-eutectic" solder made by Cardas (well known snake oil company). Does anyone know what the eutectic blend is for SnPbCuAg solder is?
What the deuce is quad-eutectic supposed to mean, even from a snake oil perspective?
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Old 14th August 2008, 10:21 PM   (permalink)
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Eutectic blend of four metals. Here's there 'reasoning' as to why it is better:

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The vast majority of solders in the world are slurries or mixtures such as 60/40 tin lead solder. They go through a slurry stage as they solidify wherein one component solidifies first and then another. The result is a solder connection rather than a joint. Eutectic solders such as Kesters Ultra pure Tin/lead Silver are in fact excellent because they solidify at a temperature lower than any of the component parts thus they form a solder joint rather than a connection - the key here is the eutectic formula which must be very precise - the solders are obviously different in that they set up with a mirror finish rather than a dull finish, the reason they do this is because they solidify as a unit. The week link in the solders is contamination - the molten solder easily dissolves other metals, this is no problem if you are soldering to a metal that is part of the eutectic mixture (such as tin or lead) you will get contiguous flow right in to the joint (easy to see) but if you solder to a dissimilar metal (such as copper or silver) you will see an obvious dulling at the connection where the eutectic formula fails and and the continuous joint becomes a connection. Cardas Quad Eutectic is tin, lead silver, copper, eutectic. The results are obvious. Most highend products use this solder and other cable manufactures have been using it for over a decade - to them it represents good sound and absolute reliability. - George
Some audio people say it's actually a very easy to work with solder, so I was just wondering what the melting point was, if there is a true eutectic known of these four metals, and/or if he just gets stuff made with a LOT of active flux in the core.

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Old 14th August 2008, 10:21 PM   (permalink)
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I guess the solution is to use better ventilation whilst soldering
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