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I cannot make this circuit work. Please help. I took the circuit idea from a comparator WEB tutorial (that probably I did not undestood). The LED must turn on when I connect +5V to point A. Should it? Thanks a lot. | |
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Should work. Check your wiring, or perhaps your LED is backwards.
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Thanks but I believed the LED is correctly oriented as it is. Anyway I change its orientation an it remain on all the time (even without any reference voltage).??? Any ideas?? Thanks. | |
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I assume you have pin 2 as the output. Which pin are you usin as the reference voltage.? You say the LED, glows which ever way round its connected.?
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hi, This drawing shows the states of the LM339.
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| That's impossible, if the LED cathode was connected to +5 your LED will never light. You've wired up something wrong.
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Blueroomelectronics thanks for the reply. Can you check the circuit diagram and tell me the correct connection of the LED? I try by connecting it the other way and it stay led all the time (even without the reference voltage or input voltage). I have seem many circuits on the web for comparator and the LED is always connected backwards???? This really confused me. ericgibbs -> thanks eric . Pin 5 is the reference voltage (2.5 V) . Pin 4 is the input voltage, 5 volts in this case. Pin 2 is the output. So in this scenario the led must turn on when Pin 4 received the 5 volts. Thanks | |
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When pin 4 goes higher than +2.5V the output will go low and the LED will light. Try connecting pin 4 to about +3V, rather than directly to +5V, some comparator input/outputs will misoperate at voltages close to their supply voltage.
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I just looked at the data sheet. I think you need a pull up on the output pin 2. In other words, put a 10K res from pin 2 to +5V.
Last edited by Mikebits; 3rd June 2008 at 06:20 PM. | |
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Forget what I just said, I realize I was wrong. oops.
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Mikebits - thanks. I will try that when I get home. The pull up will be from pin 2 to 5v and the LED will be tied to pin 2 and ground. Correct ? (This is very different to the circuits I have seem on the web and also on a very old radio shack F.Mims book I have.) Thanks again. | |
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Mikebits .So I should not try this. Any suggestion? Should I try ericgibbs suggestion on the 3v instead of 5v.? Thanks to all. | |
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If you connect the LED that way, it will work the other way around, that is the LED will go OFF when the Vin > +2.5V. Try a lower voltage than +5V on pin4.
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Is it possible that the circuit is breaking into an oscillation when the voltage is removed from pin 4. When the 5v jumper is pulled away, the pin 4 is left floating into a Wide band high gain circuit. Maybe a cap on pin 4 to ground would help??? What do ya think?
Last edited by Mikebits; 3rd June 2008 at 11:03 PM. | |
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Why not kick off the LM339? Use an LM358 instead. Works reliably.
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