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| I had been using a simple ATX power supply with a single 12V rail of a lower wattage.But now i want to buy 500 WATTS EXTREME POWER (RP-500-PCAR) power supply which contains CPU 4+4 Pin x 1 (i take it as two 12V rails). I can see only one 4 pin socket in my motherboard and on some other mobo's on net.Where will i connect that second 12V rail when there is no space for it on the motherboard. I want to know for what purpose it is there and if I don't connect it with anything, will i get the full 500 watts even then. Following is the website for further details on this power supply. http://www.coolermaster.com/products...ate=22&id=3738 | |
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| What do you have on your motherboard that requires more +12V current than you can get from your present supply? | |
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| some of the newer mobos and video cards are requiring some extra 12V leads, so it's probably just overkill, and if the line is connected to a single 12V circuit then yes you're gonna get the full amps out of one plug, so the other one is just for extra hardware. Though just cause they advertise it's 500W doesn't mean you're gonna get 500W throughput on the 12V out, usually the 12V is the weakest in power compared to the 3.3/5V. On more expensive power supplies they usually give you more leads than you'll ever need, especially if you don't have any sata drives then you'll never use the sata power connectors, it's getting to the point now where molex will probably be obsolete in computers sometime soon. . | |
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| As far as I've seen motherboards they have a 24 pin socket where 20 pins or 24 pins cable can be inserted.there is also a a 2x2 pins socket where this 12V rail can be inserted.there are other connectors for peripherals such as sata and pata drives.But my problem is that there is not another 2x2 pins socket on any mobo i've seen so far, where second 12V rail can be inserted.Where will i connect this second 12V cable or rail. | |
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| I feel that the 12v1 and 12v2 can deliver the peak of power only when the other voltages -especially those responsible for contol loop are loaded appropriately loaded. foe example, even if we purchase ta supply of 500 or 2*500 and loop them, the load is shared and the output from the 12v pins wont increase unless the 3.3 or 5v ( which ever is in control loop) is loaded to the full extent of both units.
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Does anyone know what +12V is used for on the motherboard, besides the fans? | ||
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| Presumably, it just carries extra current.
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| I'm pretty sure they regulate it down to 3.3v on the motherboard, from what I've heard. Provides more headway for voltage ripple?
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EDIT: Maybe you are right. I found one article that implies that they do this because of the many different low voltages that processors are run at. If our OP wants to overclock his processor, or install a more powerful one, it would need more current from +12V. I sure wish Badar would answer this question. Last edited by Roff; 5th January 2008 at 09:33 PM. | ||
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But i am still confused with the second 12V connector.Regardless of the fact i need it or not if I wanna use it, where I'll install it. | ||
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| Badar, I don't know what your level of expertise is, so don't be offended. I guess my concern is that you are hoping more power supply current availability will increase your computer's performance. The point I was trying to get at is that, if your computer is working now, it won't work any faster unless you change something besides the power supply. | |
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So i want to go for a genuine power supply this time with good power ratings at an affordable price.The above stated power supply suits my budget. Now i don't want that the wattage of this power supply also falls around 250 watts if i leave 12V2 rail unconnected where i have two RAM modules with one sound card and one TVTuner card installed on my PCI slots.And i want to add some good graphics card too. So i guess i need at least full 500 watts power supply. | ||
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