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Old 24th August 2007, 03:07 PM   (permalink)
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I wanting to put together a temp controlled switch using a k type thermocouple to simply turn a relay on and off with the set temp is reached. Any help or suggestions would be great
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Old 26th August 2007, 06:34 PM   (permalink)
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As it is our nature to try and understand the greater context, I wonder:

- why use a K type thermocouple rather than a thermistor or semiconductor temperature sensor? The thermocouple requires a bit more interface circuitry and so is not the most convenient choice. A K type is not the most accurate choice either so the alternatives, which are not particularly accurate either may be considerably more convenient.
- while a relay is easy to use, it is also slow, noisy, less power-efficient, larger and perhaps even costlier than a semiconductor solution so, why use a relay?

However, to answer your question as originally asked, start with an accurate thermocouple interface:
http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,,764_811_AD595,00.html
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/pro...roducts_id=306

then wire the output of this to a comparator circuit
http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/Comparators.html
and use a potentiometer in the second input of the comparator to set your desired switching point. Then use the output voltage of the comparator to drive a relay:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadge...ys/relays.html
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Old 26th August 2007, 06:46 PM   (permalink)
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As it is our nature to try and understand the greater context, I wonder:
However, to answer your question as originally asked, start with an accurate thermocouple interface:
http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,,764_811_AD595,00.html
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/pro...roducts_id=306

then wire the output of this to a comparator circuit
http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/Comparators.html
and use a potentiometer in the second input of the comparator to set your desired switching point. Then use the output voltage of the comparator to drive a relay:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadge...ys/relays.html
hi Ron,
Thanks for a well explained link [Comparators.html], I will point OP's asking about Comparators to that site.
Saves constantly repeating the same answers.

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Old 26th August 2007, 07:31 PM   (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RadioRon
As it is our nature to try and understand the greater context, I wonder:
- why use a K type thermocouple rather than a thermistor or semiconductor temperature sensor? The thermocouple requires a bit more interface circuitry and so is not the most convenient choice. A K type is not the most accurate choice either so the alternatives, which are not particularly accurate either may be considerably more convenient.
- while a relay is easy to use, it is also slow, noisy, less power-efficient, larger and perhaps even costlier than a semiconductor solution so, why use a relay?
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I wonder why some of you cant give the OP the credit for having a little bit of common sense. He obviously wants to control an oven at some high temperature, the K type is good to over 2000°F and its accuracy is more than adequate, in most instances. Substituting a thermistor or semiconductor is NOT an option at those temps.
And why should one even consider controlling an oven with anything other that a contactor (relay)?
This is all rhetorical .......... of cause.
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Old 26th August 2007, 09:58 PM   (permalink)
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Some thermistors will work at those sorts of temperatures.

I would use a small light bulb as a thermistor as it's pretty cheap and reliable, I'd go for a 5W 240V bulb as it'll have a higher resistance that's easier to measure than a 12V bulb.

Also, it's the origional poster's fault for not providing enough information.
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