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Old 21st June 2007, 01:24 AM   (permalink)
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Hi All, first post.

I have an idea for a hobby type project that I wish to build, but since I have little knowledge of electronics, I am lost on how to start - what I need etc.

The project idea is simple. I want to build a portable handheld device that shows direction and distance of a small transmitter.

The idea comes from me an my gf getting sick of trying to find each other in those big super stores when we go.

So each would have a little "tracking bug" type item and a little receiver with an lcd screen that points at the other tracking bug and gives distance. Maybe also the tracker could be built into the display unit.

I would guess the maximum distance it would need to work would be about 600-700ft (200-250m). ie The furtherest you could be away from each other in one of those huge Wal-mart/Target type places.

I have seen lots of FM transmitters and receivers but don’t know if these would work or even be able to transmit / receive at that distance.

1. So is this a reasonable possibility for me to build something like this?
2. How much would it cost?
3. Is there a better way to do this?
4. Is it legal to transmit radio like this in the USA

Thanks for your time


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Old 21st June 2007, 02:18 AM   (permalink)
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Building something like you describe would be very difficult for a beginner, or even a professional for that matter. If something like this would be inexpensive to make I am sure they would already be on the market.
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Old 21st June 2007, 02:58 AM   (permalink)
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Instead of trying to track using radio signal strength, etc., design a device that can determine it's own position (like a sort of GPS). Then, it could transmit it's location data to the other unit(s) digitally. GPS itself may have the accuracy/resolution you need. You might have problems with the GPS receiver being shielded from the satellites' signals by the metal structure of the building, though. I don't really know much about the current generation of GPS, however.
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Old 21st June 2007, 03:09 AM   (permalink)
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You could just pass a simple multiple choice test, get an amateur radio license, and use a 2M handheld to exchange much more than position. A set of FRS walkie talkies might also work for you. No license or test is required.
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Old 21st June 2007, 03:35 AM   (permalink)
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You could use one of those 120db emergency screamers (audio) and let your friend locate you (once your hearing recovers...)

oh, probably not legal. Definitely inconsiderate.
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Old 21st June 2007, 03:45 AM   (permalink)
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The idea comes from me an my gf getting sick of trying to find each other in those big super stores when we go.
Your supposed to stick with the g/f.... even when they spend forever looking at pants and shoes...... Trust me..... I know these things
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Old 21st June 2007, 04:14 AM   (permalink)
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Your supposed to stick with the g/f
Don't get too close to your g/f in a big store or she will catch you looking at all the other girls.
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Old 21st June 2007, 04:22 AM   (permalink)
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Don't get too close to your g/f in a big store or she will catch you looking at all the other girls.
You can still do it if you are skillful , walk behind her
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Old 21st June 2007, 04:59 PM   (permalink)
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How about holding the purse while they go try something on...
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Old 21st June 2007, 05:29 PM   (permalink)
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You can still do it if you are skillful , walk behind her
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Old 21st June 2007, 05:34 PM   (permalink)
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You may find what you need in amateur radio publications. A bit of detail -

A. Foxhunting is one of numerous Radio Direction Finding activities that are part of amateur radio. The amateur license helps you deal with the licensing of the transmitter.

B. APRS - Automatic Position Reporting System is part of amateur radio. In one arrangement a base station with a computer transmits a query to a station - which is another transceiver equipped with some intelligence as well as a GPS. The remote, presumably mobile/portable station responds with the GPS position and possibly other information.
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Old 21st June 2007, 05:55 PM   (permalink)
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That is not a trival application as others have already stated. Direction detection is somewhat simpler but distance is a real challenge. GPS is the only pratical way I can think of and this would not be a cheap or easy project for either the sending unit or receiving unit.

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Old 21st June 2007, 06:54 PM   (permalink)
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Then the other girls can't see you winking at them.
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Old 21st June 2007, 10:23 PM   (permalink)
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Here's a GPS module from Parallax, about $70US. The text says that it's good for outdoors, so it may not work too well inside. Also, Navsync seems to have some interesting products.
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