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Old 2nd June 2007, 12:32 AM   (permalink)
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I am in need of a data logger to measure the thrust of a rocket Vs Time. I have the test stand (or sensor) which is a simple resistive sensor. I plan on running a voltage across it, in which the voltage will correspond to the amount of thrust produced.

I have picked out these 2 data loggers; Im kinda on a budget here.

http://www.omega.com/ppt/pptsc.asp?ref=OM-EL-USB-1

I was thinking of USB-3. I like portablity, and I dont want to get a laptop.

or this:http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/pro...roducts_id=752

But it seems like Id have to decode the ascii with that one.

I dont want to have to pay for software either. Does any one have any other suggestions? I basically need to record voltage. My current setup involves the camera recording a ohm meter, but it seems the meter might not catch "spikes" in the thrust (and it doesnt seem too fast to me).
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Old 2nd June 2007, 02:28 AM   (permalink)
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Loggers can be nice, but since the experiment taks place in a short time, why not use an A to D converter to read the thrust directly into the computer? Might save some unnecessary hardware that way.

Unless the rocket motor might go pop, in which case the logger is a better sacrifice.
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Old 2nd June 2007, 03:19 AM   (permalink)
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Loggers can be nice, but since the experiment taks place in a short time, why not use an A to D converter to read the thrust directly into the computer? Might save some unnecessary hardware that way.

Unless the rocket motor might go pop, in which case the logger is a better sacrifice.
Well I have found a 8 bit data logger that would be perfect for my application, it uses the parallel port which I dont mind, and it doesnt cost a ton of money. Plus Id have to solder the thing myself, So its an added bonus!

I would have to run a long cord from the computer to the test stand, I thought parallel started to get funky after 25ft.

The engine shouldnt blow, the worst that can happen is a hole would burn through some where on the engine, causing a release of gases. But that wouldnt effect the logger in anyway.

Unless I found a cheap laptop, something like a 400Mhz comp would be all I need.
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Old 2nd June 2007, 05:28 PM   (permalink)
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No question that the logger will record data. Do you get enough resolution out os 8 bits? that's only 256 discreet levels. If you are also looking for transients in the thrust, can it sample at frequent enough intervals to catch the spikes?
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No question that the logger will record data. Do you get enough resolution out os 8 bits? that's only 256 discreet levels. If you are also looking for transients in the thrust, can it sample at frequent enough intervals to catch the spikes?
Well I dont want to have too many bits, or else I'll have too many data points to graph.

http://www.dataq.com/products/startkit/di194rs.htm

When ever I searched google, dataq was always #1 on the list. To tell you the truth, Most people who test their engines use dataq loggers. I Also figured that I wouldnt have to run a long serial/parallel port cord from the test stand to the computer, I can just run a long cord like so:

Computer-Data logger---------------------Test stand

Instead of

Computer---------------------Data Logger-Teststand.

Since Im only measuring voltage, theres only a distance of about 40 feet between the test stand and the computer. In worst case scenario, I would have to design a circuit to get rid of the noise. However, I Do have a mini computer (Old HP 400Mhz) thats pretty small. I could set it on a table and use that instead of a lappy.

Motor Burn times are Very short, and are around .1 seconds to 1 second (but it depends on how long the motor is, how wide it is, propellant grain, and what type of propellant is used). An added bonus is it comes with 4 channels, so if there was a need to measure other things, I could. And at 25 bucks, I dont think you could beat that kind of a deal.

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