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Old 21st January 2007, 05:58 PM   (permalink)
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Heres the problem, we have a huge drier for screen printing in our shop and right across about 150 ft away or so is our garage with automatic doors, but for some reason when our large dryer is on the IR sensors dont seem to work, and the drier is on a completely different wiring system, so its not a power issue, is it possible that the old drier is giving off a frequency that is blocking the doors?

if so you think there is a way to fix it? we already tried a led box around the motor and tin foil, someone said that would work, hah. didnt though. any ideas?
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Old 21st January 2007, 06:02 PM   (permalink)
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You first need to find what's stopping it working - for a start how does the IR opener work?.
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Old 21st January 2007, 06:08 PM   (permalink)
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well from what i understand they just work on IR light pulses and binary, which is why it confuses me on why the drier would cause this, but none the less without fail, everytime it seems to jam the signal. so im a bit confused.
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Old 21st January 2007, 06:11 PM   (permalink)
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actually i just read something on RF remotes and says some actually work on radio frequencies. so the trier could be producing that, im curious if theres a way to block it, im thinking if i maybe find out what frequency it is i can make a device that makes that same frequency but out of phase, and it would cancel out the drier signal. sounds out there, but maybe it would work?
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Old 21st January 2007, 06:27 PM   (permalink)
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You're over complicating what I asked - how do they work? - is it remote control, beam breaking, proximity sensing?.
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Old 21st January 2007, 06:37 PM   (permalink)
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guess im not sure what your asking. it is a remote control for sure if thats what your question is. the remote control is only thing that doesnt work, we can press the open and close button and it works fine.
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Old 21st January 2007, 07:23 PM   (permalink)
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You said the door was automatic. What makes it automatic.

Also you don't seem to really KNOW how the door works. You are talking about IR, RF, automatic..... If you want help then we have to know how the door is activated.

When you talk about lead and foil it sounds as if you are trying to shield it from RF or something, but you reffered to IR at that time. Read your own post carefully, that is the only information about your door that we have.
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Old 21st January 2007, 07:47 PM   (permalink)
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honestly i dont know if its RF or IR, you know about just as much as me. Im not really sure how to check either unfortunately else i would have checked.
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Old 21st January 2007, 07:58 PM   (permalink)
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I personally have never seen an IR garage remote. I have two seperate openers on my garage and both are RF. If it is by chance IR there should be a IR LED or lense on the front of the remote (like a TV or Stereo remote).
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Old 21st January 2007, 08:31 PM   (permalink)
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How does your dryer work? Is it just a heater? Does it have phase-controlled triacs, or something else that could generate a lot of RF interference?
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Old 21st January 2007, 08:58 PM   (permalink)
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IR is a light beam and needs line of sight between thw sender and receiver, like someone wrote, a TV remote control.

So it would not work if you hold a sheet of cardboard between it and the door sensor. But if it is RF, cardboard would not affect it.

As Ron wrote, it must be interference from the dryer which means that it is probably an RF system.
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Old 22nd January 2007, 03:47 PM   (permalink)
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yeah i just found out they are radio frequency for sure. now i guess im trying to figure out how to diagnose the problem. i dont know much about the heater itself except its very old. its very large too, about size of two cars, cant find the old dryer but heres on thats very similar to it http://www.hixcorp.com/artwork/gas%20dryer.jpg

not sure if that helps at all.
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Old 22nd January 2007, 04:07 PM   (permalink)
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what brand and model is the garage door opener? Maybe you can check out the mfgr's website for more info. Have you tried changing any DIP switch settings to see if that resolves things (if the remote & opener controller have DIP switches). Be a little more detailed with info. for us to diagnose from.
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Old 22nd January 2007, 04:35 PM   (permalink)
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If it's RF, then the dryer is probably throwing out lots of RF interference, try an AM radio near it!.
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Old 22nd January 2007, 04:47 PM   (permalink)
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If it's gas-powered, the RFI is probably coming from one or more of the motors. It has to have at least one. If the conveyer belt motor has a speed control, it is probably the culprit. A power line filter might solve the problem.
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