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Old 27th December 2006, 06:29 AM   (permalink)
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I have an output on a motherboard that illuminates a twisted wire LED(two pins).

Is there a way to measure the current(Amps) that this output is generating?
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Old 27th December 2006, 06:54 AM   (permalink)
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What does this wire do? If it's a signal wire, I don't think you could stick a small current sense resistor in series and measure the voltage drop across it to calculate the current...

Hall effect methods seem excessive just for this and I'm not sure if they work with such low currents.
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Old 27th December 2006, 06:58 AM   (permalink)
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It's an output that lights a LED when the computer is on.
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Old 27th December 2006, 08:34 AM   (permalink)
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It's an output that lights a LED when the computer is on.
DC with high and 0 levels ?. a series resistor would do.
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Old 27th December 2006, 08:43 AM   (permalink)
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I followed what I could find on google, but it's giving me inconsistant results.

It says make a break in the circuit, and hook the multimeter up. I'm assuming there should be about 10mA but my multimeter tells me there's 61mA. Im pretty sure that can't be right.
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Old 27th December 2006, 08:46 AM   (permalink)
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a Standard LED wouldn't last long at 61 mA's.
sure nothing else is connected to it?

Have you checked your meter at a known current?
eg. 5 Volts dc powersupply and connect a known resistor value across it and measure the current.
Allowe for a 5% error in the resistor.
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Old 27th December 2006, 09:04 AM   (permalink)
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There's nothing connected to it usually, on occassion the twisted wire LED for the front of the computer case.

I don't have anything to benchmark my results on. I've tried batteries but my multimeter says they're all Overload (Too high) and I don't have anything else to test it on.
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Old 27th December 2006, 09:22 AM   (permalink)
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I worked it out. I have an auto switching multimeter and I didn't even look at the range indicator.

It's actually 61 micro amperes. Which equates to 0.061 milli amperes.
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Old 27th December 2006, 09:23 AM   (permalink)
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Well done. Seems kind of low though...doesn't it?
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Old 27th December 2006, 09:58 AM   (permalink)
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That's what I thought. I'm not too sure that the auto ranging on this is right.

It reads 61 in the range of 100ľA. So it could actually be 6.1mA.

I'm not completely sure how it reads the current.
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Old 27th December 2006, 03:16 PM   (permalink)
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You broke your meter by overloading it when you shorted batteries with it.
If it is set to measure DC current and is in series with the load, if the LED does not light then the meter's fuse is blown.

Why do you need to know the current of an LED? Maybe it is pulsing at a high frequency instead of DC.
If the LED is bright then its average current is about 25mA.
If the LED is dim then its average current is 2mA.
If the LED is extremely dim then its average current is next to nothing.
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Old 27th December 2006, 08:56 PM   (permalink)
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You broke your meter by overloading it when you shorted batteries with it.
If it is set to measure DC current and is in series with the load, if the LED does not light then the meter's fuse is blown.
Exactly, I doubt it's broken, it probably just needs a new fuse.

I think the LED already has a current limiting resistor and you were just measuring the short circuit current.
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Old 27th December 2006, 10:11 PM   (permalink)
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What I done was take the LED wires off the motherboard and put the multimeter on the output(basic current measurement).

There's nothing wrong with the multimeter, it goes OL when its out of range(it auto selects up to a preset).

Im just having a problem with reading the range. I'm thinking if it's reading in the 100ľA range, then the output could be in 100's. So it would have given me 6.1mA.
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Old 27th December 2006, 11:07 PM   (permalink)
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If a meter is in the 100uA range, then a reading of 61 is only 61uA which is nearly nothing.
My digital multimeters tell me if the reading is in uA, ma or A. Yours is so confusing that it should be replaced by one that was designed by a guy with some common sense.

You tried to measure the current with the LED shorted. The LED is not supposed to be shorted. A red LED is about 2V, a blue or white LED is about 3.5V. Their current would measure a lot higher if they had a resistor feeding the current and they are shorted with a current meter.
A current meter is supposed to be connected in series with the complete circuit.
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Old 28th December 2006, 09:20 AM   (permalink)
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I'm going on the information that was provided for me. Which is:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...tt/elect32.htm

Where is states that the circuit must be BROKEN.

This is what I done.
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