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holdfast9 · 14th October 2006, 03:10 AM

helo everyone..

can anyone explain me what is dual 4-bit binary counter..what it is use for? where we can apply it?

my teacher ask me to design a circuit using 555, 74LS11, & 74LS393..

the circuit show us how dual 4 bit binary counter works by seeing the LED..

I try to design it using the ISIS PROTEUS software..but it doesn't work..can anyone help me?

Papabravo · 14th October 2006, 04:21 AM

A dual 4-bit binary counter.

Dual means that there are two(2) binary counters each of which is four bits long.

4-bits means that each of the two counters has 4 binary digits or bits. Each bit can take only the values zero(0) or one(1)

binary means the the counters inputs and outputs are represented in the binary or base two number system.

The 4-bit binary counter has the following set of outputs:

{0000,0001,0010,0011,0100,0101,0110,0111,1000,1001 ,1010,1011,1100,1101,1110,1111}

Each time there is a clock pulse the counter goes to the next state. Some counters go through the sequence in the forward direction and they are called up counters. Some counters go through the sequence in the backward direction and they are called down counters. Some counters can do both depending on the state of a control input.

What are they used for? Everything. IMHO it is a dead heat between counters and shift registers for the title of most useful part.

Pommie · 14th October 2006, 04:51 AM

In the attached diagram you have unused inputs of an AND gate connected to GND - they should be connected to +V. You could also just connect them all together and to the 555.

Mike.

Hero999 · 14th October 2006, 10:27 AM

What's the purpose of that NAND gate?

All it's doing is acting as a buffer and the 555 is more than capable of driving the counter so it can be omitted altogether.

penoy_balut · 14th October 2006, 10:42 AM

your circuit will work just do what hero and pommie said

holdfast9 · 14th October 2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

In the attached diagram you have unused inputs of an AND gate connected to GND - they should be connected to +V. You could also just connect them all together and to the 555.

Mike.

ok i connect all the input of AND gate to the 555 & i do some modify to circuit..

the LED is on..and its start counter..from 0000-1111

1st and 2nd cycle it count properly..but when the 3rd cycle the simulation is failed...why?

thanx for ur advice...i appericiate it..

holdfast9 · 14th October 2006, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papabravo

What are they used for? Everything. IMHO it is a dead heat between counters and shift registers for the title of most useful part.

IMHO? i dont understand

HarveyH42 · 14th October 2006, 11:26 AM

Aren't TTL ICs usually 5 volts? You are using a 12 volt supply...

holdfast9 · 14th October 2006, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarveyH42

Aren't TTL ICs usually 5 volts? You are using a 12 volt supply...

oh..i forgot to change it..

ok now the simulation run properly...

thanx everyone

Papabravo · 14th October 2006, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdfast9

IMHO? i dont understand

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

Hero999 · 14th October 2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdfast9

ok i connect all the input of AND gate to the 555 & i do some modify to circuit..

You don't need the AND gate, read my post above.

holdfast9 · 14th October 2006, 04:06 PM

ok..now i want to change the 555 to crystal 80Mhz..& the 74LS393 to 74HC393..because i am doing fast circuitry..

in the ISIS how to connect the crystal to input 74HC393?

is my circuit correct? i run the simulation..it doesn't work..why?

JimB · 14th October 2006, 04:22 PM

A crystal will not work as you have connected it.

Electrically a crystal behaves like an LC tuned circuit. You will need some other components before it will oscillate.

However, a crystal oscillator is a complete circuit and crystal in one metal (usually) package. It just needs 5v and out comes an 80Mhz or whatever frequency square wave.

JimB

Hero999 · 14th October 2006, 04:29 PM

Because all you've done is added a crystal! You need to build a propper little crystal oscillator consisting of an amplifier with the crystal in the feedback network. At 80MHz is so fast you won't be able to see the LEDs flash, in fact LEDs aren't even fast enough to turn on and off at that speed.

Use a CD4060 and a 32768kHz crystal to get 2Hz, then use that to drive your counter with.

holdfast9 · 14th October 2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero999

Because all you've done is added a crystal! You need to build a propper little crystal oscillator consisting of an amplifier with the crystal in the feedback network. At 80MHz is so fast you won't be able to see the LEDs flash, in fact LEDs aren't even fast enough to turn on and off at that speed.

Use a CD4060 and a 32768kHz crystal to get 2Hz, then use that to drive your counter with.

oic...i still dont know how to built that circuit

...what & where source should i refer to..to understand how to built a proper crystal oscillator..

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14th October 2006, 03:10 AM	#1
holdfast9	dual-4 bit binary counter helo everyone.. can anyone explain me what is dual 4-bit binary counter..what it is use for? where we can apply it? my teacher ask me to design a circuit using 555, 74LS11, & 74LS393.. the circuit show us how dual 4 bit binary counter works by seeing the LED.. I try to design it using the ISIS PROTEUS software..but it doesn't work..can anyone help me? Attached Thumbnails

14th October 2006, 04:21 AM	#2
Papabravo	A dual 4-bit binary counter. Dual means that there are two(2) binary counters each of which is four bits long. 4-bits means that each of the two counters has 4 binary digits or bits. Each bit can take only the values zero(0) or one(1) binary means the the counters inputs and outputs are represented in the binary or base two number system. The 4-bit binary counter has the following set of outputs: {0000,0001,0010,0011,0100,0101,0110,0111,1000,1001 ,1010,1011,1100,1101,1110,1111} Each time there is a clock pulse the counter goes to the next state. Some counters go through the sequence in the forward direction and they are called up counters. Some counters go through the sequence in the backward direction and they are called down counters. Some counters can do both depending on the state of a control input. What are they used for? Everything. IMHO it is a dead heat between counters and shift registers for the title of most useful part.

14th October 2006, 04:51 AM	#3
Pommie	In the attached diagram you have unused inputs of an AND gate connected to GND - they should be connected to +V. You could also just connect them all together and to the 555. Mike.

14th October 2006, 10:27 AM	#4
Hero999	What's the purpose of that NAND gate? All it's doing is acting as a buffer and the 555 is more than capable of driving the counter so it can be omitted altogether. __________________ I do not answer private messages asking for help because no one else can: benefit from advice I may give or correct me if I'm wrong. Please ask on the open forum if you have a question and I'll be happy to help, if I know the answer.

14th October 2006, 10:42 AM	#5
penoy_balut	your circuit will work just do what hero and pommie said

14th October 2006, 11:26 AM	#8
HarveyH42	Aren't TTL ICs usually 5 volts? You are using a 12 volt supply...

14th October 2006, 04:06 PM	#12
holdfast9	ok..now i want to change the 555 to crystal 80Mhz..& the 74LS393 to 74HC393..because i am doing fast circuitry.. in the ISIS how to connect the crystal to input 74HC393? is my circuit correct? i run the simulation..it doesn't work..why? Attached Thumbnails

14th October 2006, 04:22 PM	#13
JimB	A crystal will not work as you have connected it. Electrically a crystal behaves like an LC tuned circuit. You will need some other components before it will oscillate. However, a crystal oscillator is a complete circuit and crystal in one metal (usually) package. It just needs 5v and out comes an 80Mhz or whatever frequency square wave. JimB __________________ Experience is directly proportional to the value of the equipment ruined.

14th October 2006, 04:29 PM	#14
Hero999	Because all you've done is added a crystal! You need to build a propper little crystal oscillator consisting of an amplifier with the crystal in the feedback network. At 80MHz is so fast you won't be able to see the LEDs flash, in fact LEDs aren't even fast enough to turn on and off at that speed. Use a CD4060 and a 32768kHz crystal to get 2Hz, then use that to drive your counter with. __________________ I do not answer private messages asking for help because no one else can: benefit from advice I may give or correct me if I'm wrong. Please ask on the open forum if you have a question and I'll be happy to help, if I know the answer.