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    By limit the starting surge current of Motor & compressor of an air-cond or fridge, will it save me some electric bill?
    If yes, why? If not, why?

    Assume for single phase, home Kwh power meter that don't care of power factor.


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    If you think about it for a minute you will realize that electric power is charged in killowatt-hours. The amount of time a motor spends starting and coasting is insignificant compared to the runtime. You may expend a great deal of effort for an insignificant payoff. Surely you have better things to do with your time.

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    U can lower your fridge related electric bill by puting a small fan on the radiator and filing empty spaces in the fridge . If it's a A or A+ type....don't bother.
    If is too complicated.....most of the times is the wrong way.

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    Default starting current of air cond, refridgerator , freezer

    Quote Originally Posted by VictorPS
    By limit the starting surge current of Motor & compressor of an air-cond or fridge, will it save me some electric bill?
    If yes, why? If not, why?

    Assume for single phase, home Kwh power meter that don't care of power factor.
    A motor driving an air cond or fridge compressor usually
    uses 3.5 times as much current during starting, due to a starting capacitor that is switched into the motor circuit.

    Inertia and liquid freon require the extra current.
    Normal current and power of the motor will NOT be enough
    to start.

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    In the UK there is a product called "SavaPlug" that works by reducing the power to the compressor motor AFTER it has started. This is because full power is only needed to start the compressor.
    I noticed that there is a long list of products that are not compatible with it, so I assume that many newer products already incorporate some energy saving electronics in order to achieve high energy efficiency ratings.

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    The fan method works on any type of Fridge. It encreases the heat transfer (especialy if it's a warm day) and the compresor will stay on a shorter period.
    About Sava Plug....I wonder how it works?
    If is too complicated.....most of the times is the wrong way.

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    But the surge only lasts for a short length of time. Papabravo's right it takes a certain amount of energy to get started. Restricting the surge, hence slowing the process down won't save any energy at all, it'll probably only only consume more energy overall.

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    Why is all that smoke?
    Oh, my SavaPlug reduces the surge current to my air conditioner so frequently its motor doesn't start. Both the SavaPlug and the motor are burning.
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