Walters, you are missing the point.

If you want to talk about magnets and motors, that is fine, BUT we don't want to see you arguing with professional answers, and we don't want to see you asking 50,000 questions, especially when 1/2 of them become useless.

For example, when you ask about windings, and we give our answers, and many answers given to you are the same, we don't want to see you make a FOOL out of your self and try to implement some new, ridiculous theory in electronics that states that the appearance of a piece of wire affects the entire circuit operation.

Let's face it. Apearance and beautification, and all that go to some website that supports cosmetics.

Guitar amps, and things like that go to a music forum.

the main thing is: DONT MAKE US THINK YOU ARE ALWAYS CORRECT, or in short, DON'T ARGUE!

Walters, Why not browse through this entire forum, and see how other people answer other people's questions.

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asking 50,000 questions, especially when 1/2 of them become useless.
your over-reacting about this and my questions

I don't know why everyone is getting all mad over nothing i just wanted to talk about magnets and motors

 

Fine, 50,000 is a ridiculous number, but I'm trying to make a point.

Are you declaring your index of questions, and all of your bad debates over our answers as NOTHING?

along with 50+ given answers that you have debated on in a non-respectful manner.

Have you read this entire thread yet?

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i'm not debating im trying to learn about winding techniques and magnets more thats all so leave me alone and stop attacking me because i don't have the answers to my 500,000 questions

 

There you go again making unsupported arguments.

if alot of people are angry with you. Then it means one of two things:

1) There is something wrong with EVERYBODY.

2) There is something wrong with YOU.

I wonder which it is.

If its #1, you should not stay in such an abusive forum. If its #2 you should consider leaving everyone in peace, or better: changing whatever is causing these problems with everyone.

 

walters .. how old are u??

Also one more thing .. this thread became soo..long ..since.. someone answers his questions . what if we didn't ??.

 

everyone is mad at me now

 

anyone reading the entire thread will be...

 

Thats to bad

 

*Takes a very deep breath*

Walters please listen to what I am abt to write. I will be to do with your questions Plus your posts.



You want to learn about megnets and motors? Electromagnetism is an extreamly big and complex field. Asking to learn from scratch from a forum is really unexceptable.
Why? because of the complexaty. This forum is full of hobby electronics ppl who will have an understanding of magnetism, but it is built from experience and study. Ppl here will know abt magnetism BUT a forum is the worst place to try to learn, you need to read books and goto Uni that way you have contact with the infomation. You cannot learn everything from a forum

IF you want to learn about electromagnetism (from which magnets and motors will make sense) then look into Maxwells Equations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations


From another thread you did not want to learn mathematics, and from these 4 equation you must accept to understand MAgnetism you are going to have to understand basic Calculus.


What is it about magnets that you want to know? All that is useful for day to day use is that they are a source of magnetic flux. You either use an electro-mag (coil of wire + electricity), that is really all you need to know.

ALso you seem to be fasinated about physically how you would wind an inductor!! IS it really that important?

I made a statement
That you dismissed with "I am not talking about OPAMPS"

I dont really care if you are or not I gave a valid example and you just do NOT listen.


YES different winding techniques can change the characteristics of that inductor, that is why we have datasheets that tell use the ONLY useful infomation
Stray capacitiance, resistiance, Inductance.
They are really the ONLY info that is required. An OPAMP will respond to voltage, if you put a Inductor in the feedback it will be those 3 quantity's that will govern the behaviour of the circuit, not how it was made.

YES how it was made will govern those quantities, but knowing how it was made isn't going to tell you those values. To know those value you need to look at the data sheet



Now your attitude stinks and you cannot deny it!!!
When you start a post it is for general infomation with about 10different question in one post!!

This forum is suppose to be an aid to solve ppls desing problem or a general query.
say
Good question, someone has done some work and they are stuck.

You would do something like
Where is a technical query in a post like that? it doesn't exist and thus is wholly unnapropriate for this forum



Equally when a logical reply is given to you you just dismiss it and ask the question again. Why dont you trust the reply? There are enough ppl here so that if a reply was made that was wrong it would get corrected. I have posted reply's before and someone ha corrected my statement thus ensuring the reply is appropriate.

You just seem to dismiss it. 99% of what you ask can be answered by searching google, yet you search google and it give's you an answer that you dont understand so you then post back here!!!! you dont even try to search for that new thing.

You are trying to learn off the internet a very complex field (ie electronics) which is not going to happen, you have come across this resouce and you are abusing it.

A common reply to pretty much all your replies are:

Google
Book
Goto college

from the level of understanding that you have demopnstrated they are you only hopes (college being the biggest one).
Please do those things and when you have a realy problem by all means post back here with your design problem and we will try to fix

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and that is the problem!!!
This forum is not a collage or learning resource for the basics, it is ment to aid in fixing problems.

wha tI am amazed with is you dont seem to think there is a problem in having 500,000questions.

That was the level of question I had when I started Uni. Guess what, the Lecterers taught me and now I have the odd one or two specific to a problem.

GO TO COLLAGE!!!!

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Before college, first you should repeat or finish high school.

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I think he also needs to repeat elementary school.

Walters, Styx is so mad at you right now, I can perfectly see why he is making more spelling mistakes than usual.

And how are you not debating our answers?

why?
I think we should send him to Martha Stewart so he will learn how to wind up a sewing machine :wink:

We have already told you answers regarding magnets, and you are just ignoring all of them.

yeah right

Here's the deal. If you respect us, we will respect you. If you continue to disrespect us, then we have to argue with you just to make you understand that what you are doing to the comunity is wrong.

The best way for us to leave you alone is for you to leave or at least not make any more posts.

No one has answers to their 500,000 questions, but they don't shoot them out all at once.

Walters, you need to understand that WE VOLUNTEER OUR TIME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS when we have a chance to do it.
We are not full-time, 24-7 question processors.

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This thread is degenerating into personal attacks, so I'm locking the thread!.

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