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Old 9th June 2005, 09:17 PM   (permalink)
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and these types of tests are serious abuse!.
If the spec stated 100W rms continuous output at 8 ohms, then loading it to 100W using a 8 ohms resistor could no way be classified as abuse. Am I missing something?
If the spec quoted that, fair enough! - but amps that quote that are not very likely to blow up :lol:
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Old 10th June 2005, 01:44 AM   (permalink)
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Peak power is simply the continuous RMS power that was measured, times two.

are we talking sine waves? in that case it should be RMS value times the square root of 2.

with sine waves for a constant load, power doubles for every 40% increase in voltage!
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Old 10th June 2005, 01:48 AM   (permalink)
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If the spec quoted that, fair enough! - but amps that quote that are not very likely to blow up

the 1975 FTC ruling requires preconditioning for an hour at 1/3 power, after which the amps is tested at full power for 5 minutes at the disclosed power rating by the manufacturer!

this measure afaik is aimed to protect consumers from unrealistic claims by manufacturers as to power output capability!
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Old 10th June 2005, 01:58 AM   (permalink)
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On my amplifier spec sheet there is one item that said "Dynamic Headroom into 4 ohms = 2.1dB". What does that means?
this is a measure of how stiff your power supply is!
a fully regulated supply will have a 0db of headroom! becuase the power supply rails are held constant from zero volume to full volume!

designers using unregulated supplies give allowances for low line voltages to insure that their amps can deliver rated power, so that even at full power, there is still some power supply voltage margin available.

power doubling is 3db so that a 2.1db is somewhat less than that!
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Old 10th June 2005, 02:14 AM   (permalink)
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Peak power is simply the continuous RMS power that was measured, times two.

are we talking sine waves? in that case it should be RMS value times the square root of 2.

with sine waves for a constant load, power doubles for every 40% increase in voltage!
That's correct. The peak voltage and peak current of a sine wave is the RMS value times the square root of 2. Therefore the instantaneous peak power is double the RMS power. :lol:

The quality amps I worked with have an unconditional 5 years guarantee. Nobody could abuse them with their full protection from a shorted load, variable speed fans and overdesign to make them extremely reliable. :lol:
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Old 10th June 2005, 03:36 AM   (permalink)
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If you put a square wave instead of a sine wave for the input and
measure the output power of a amplifer it doubles i think

RMS square wave output power
Peak output power
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Old 10th June 2005, 03:48 AM   (permalink)
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If you put a square wave instead of a sine wave for the input and
measure the output power of a amplifer it doubles i think

RMS square wave output power
Peak output power
That's correct. Only if the peak-to-peak voltages are the same.
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Old 10th June 2005, 04:11 AM   (permalink)
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Yea same Peak to Peak voltage the square wave has more AREA i think
than the sine wave so you get more output peak power
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