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Old 28th November 2004, 09:50 PM   (permalink)
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hi everyone.

ive got a question about which kind of photo paper i should use for making my PCB. Is there anything that i should especially be looking for in the paper? i looked @ some on the net, and i saw inkjet photopaper, laser photopaper, etc. wuts my best bet??

thank you
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Old 29th November 2004, 12:01 AM   (permalink)
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Hi!

Do you have a deskjet or a laser printer? The paper type depends of this.
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Old 29th November 2004, 02:13 AM   (permalink)
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he's using it for PCB making, so he has to use a laser printer.

the best paper i have found is Staples brand "Picture Paper"

http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Brows...e=1&Sku=471861
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Old 29th November 2004, 02:17 AM   (permalink)
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Hello!

I use my deskjet printer to make PCB... You just need some special transparency film. Personnaly, I use HP Premium inkjet transparacy film and it work well.
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Old 29th November 2004, 02:55 AM   (permalink)
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thanx everyone. JFDuval, you use ur deskjet?? im very interested in this :lol: . what kind do you use? i went to officedepot.com and saw laser transparency, write on transparency, inkjet transparency, etc.

Thanx evandude. unfortunately, i don't own, or know anyone who owns a laser printer. I was planning on printing it out on regular paper, then taking it to a copy shop and copy it onto a piece of photo paper that i would provide them to put into their copier.

Well, i guess that it just comes down to what type of transparency film i need, and therefore how much it will cost.
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Old 29th November 2004, 06:13 AM   (permalink)
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really JFDuval??? can you use your inkjet printer for making PCBs.

i read a few articles about making PCBs on the internet and the only thing that kept me away from making my own PCBs at home was that a Laserjet printer is usually required.

could you explain your method a little bit?
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Old 29th November 2004, 06:17 AM   (permalink)
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D'OH!! i just realized that u say that you use inkjet transparency jfduval!! skiped that part ops:

would write on transparency work? its quite a bit less expensive

if it has to be inkjet transparency, then i think that i might stick with photo paper because inkjet transparency is $20 for 20 pieces. premium laser photo paper is $20 for 50.

btw, laser photo paper would work in a kinkos B&W copier right?
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Old 29th November 2004, 06:43 AM   (permalink)
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ahha! i remember i developed a method requiring only water, clay, overhead transparency and patience. And yes of course a laser printer.

the clay was mixed with water in to a very very weak solution, like 95 percent water and then sprayed over othe transparency, then dry it out. The clay simply acted as a release agent. from there it is print, iron, peel and etch...simple

you could try just normal paper but i cant remeber the method.

p.s: oh yeh use soapy warm water when peeling it off. I swear using straight cold water is a b***h to get it working. :evil:
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Old 29th November 2004, 12:04 PM   (permalink)
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Thanx evandude. unfortunately, i don't own, or know anyone who owns a laser printer. I was planning on printing it out on regular paper, then taking it to a copy shop and copy it onto a piece of photo paper that i would provide them to put into their copier.
Better make sure it is a high quality copier, I havent used a copier in awhile but I know that they tend to blur or mess up sometimes. Since you are dealing with very fine lines and stuff, a tiny misprint could mess it up.
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Old 29th November 2004, 01:22 PM   (permalink)
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Hello!

Yes, it's true. The fact that inkjet transparency cost high is bad but it's cheaper than changing my printer. The printer I use to make PCBs is an old HP Desket 400 (more than ten years old...) and it work perfect. See this picture, it's my lasts board etched: http://machivi.ma.cx/jfduv/DSC01045.JPG.

Good luck,
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Old 29th November 2004, 01:26 PM   (permalink)
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the photo paper i mentioned works just fine for use with a photocopier as well... and it costs a LOT less than transparency film...
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Old 29th November 2004, 02:35 PM   (permalink)
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Yes, it's true. The fact that inkjet transparency cost high is bad but it's cheaper than changing my printer. The printer I use to make PCBs is an old HP Desket 400 (more than ten years old...) and it work perfect. See this picture, it's my lasts board etched: http://machivi.ma.cx/jfduv/DSC01045.JPG.
Impressive board :!:
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Old 29th November 2004, 04:15 PM   (permalink)
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yeah really neat!!!!!!!!!!!!

so could you explain your method JFDuval.

you print out the layout on a transperency and then what???
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Old 29th November 2004, 04:25 PM   (permalink)
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WOW jfduval, thats reeealy nice!! if only it wasnt so expensive . thanx everyone for the help, im gonna go ahead and get some photo paper.
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Old 29th November 2004, 05:29 PM   (permalink)
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Hello!

Thanks for the felicitations ops: . The process is simple:

1- I use Eagle to make my board on the computer
2- I print twice on transparency to have perfect opacity
3- I insolate my presensitized board with a cheap MG Insulator
4- I reveal with revealator
4- I put the board in my homemade etch tank (not sure if it's the name in english, in french it's a graveuse.)
5- I clean and use!

To see picture of my etching equipement, go to www.machivi.ma.cx. I have complete explainations there.
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