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Old 7th November 2004, 09:28 PM   (permalink)
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Oh, I did that. I mean, are you talking about a linear regulator? I submitted that during our discussion with our lecturer last week but he wanted me to implement switching regulators instead of a linear regulator.

ops: Correct me if I'm wrong, are you saying that, from the power supply, using a step-down transformer then rectifies it thorugh diodes and a capacitor in parallel with the load? ops: Hope I'm not talking nonsense...
yes, but are u allowed to use a rgulator ..or do you have to build it with individual components..?
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Old 7th November 2004, 09:33 PM   (permalink)
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oh yes yes, you mean regulators like LM317 IC and all? yes, im allowed to use them...any ideas on how can i build one with good efficiency? ops: can i get them from you?
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Old 7th November 2004, 09:42 PM   (permalink)
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williB? not that I dont want to "pay attention" while you're teaching me , but i guess i got to sleep. i will be back in...2 hours time to read ur replies.

thanks you so so so much
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Old 7th November 2004, 11:08 PM   (permalink)
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oh yes yes, you mean regulators like LM317 IC and all? yes, im allowed to use them...any ideas on how can i build one with good efficiency? ops: can i get them from you?
well i only have one LM317 targeted for my robot car. ops: sorry
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Old 8th November 2004, 01:38 AM   (permalink)
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any ideas on how can i build one with good efficiency? ops: can i get them from you?
the datasheet of the LM317 will give you alot of ideas for building a good regulated supply. and the LM317 is a commonly available regulator that you can find at any electronics shop
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Old 8th November 2004, 06:33 PM   (permalink)
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Thanks for that guide regarding LM317.

Would to ask how does the transformer used in switch mode power supply varies from the one used in linear regulator? I thought the selection of proper transformer depends on the transformer ration? For instance, 240:12. Won't we need the same type of transformer for both linear regulator circuitry as well as switch mode regulator circuitry as the desired output is 12V DC?

Thanks...
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Old 8th November 2004, 06:44 PM   (permalink)
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Thanks for that guide regarding LM317.

Would to ask how does the transformer used in switch mode power supply varies from the one used in linear regulator? I thought the selection of proper transformer depends on the transformer ration? For instance, 240:12. Won't we need the same type of transformer for both linear regulator circuitry as well as switch mode regulator circuitry as the desired output is 12V DC?

Thanks...
the transformer selection does depend on the ratio
as i understand it a switching powersupply somehow increases the frequency thus uses a physically smaller transformer.
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Old 8th November 2004, 07:18 PM   (permalink)
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Hi there, I've read about the implementation of transformerless AC/DC converter. Not implementing this in the project, just want to ask something this form of AC/DC converter.

It states that it is not advisable to implement such transformerless AC/DC converter to certain applications, such as a battery charging circuit, where a user can easily have direct contact with the 240V AC supply, which is dangerous.

Would like to ask about the term "direct contact" used in here.

Just curious that certain house appliances that we're using has direct contact to the 240V AC supply as well. We do know that it is dangerous and we need to be aware of it and becareful while using them.

Does this mean that it is also practical to implement an transformerless AC/DC converter for a battery charging circuit, where the circuit is being "stored" in a proper casing?

Sorry for my nonsense again...
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Old 8th November 2004, 07:31 PM   (permalink)
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the transformer selection does depend on the ratio
as i understand it a switching powersupply somehow increases the frequency thus uses a physically smaller transformer.
Does this mean that...I'm not sure the available transformers in the market, so for example:

Ratio of 240:24 at 60Hz is a bigger than 240:24 at 120Hz?
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Old 8th November 2004, 07:52 PM   (permalink)
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Ratio of 240:24 at 60Hz is a bigger than 240:24 at 120Hz?
The ratio is the same, but the transformer can be physically smaller - although 60Hz to 120Hz isn't enough of a change to make much difference.

A switch mode supply normally will work in KHz, sometimes in the 100KHz range, this reduces the transformer to about 10% of it's 50/60Hz size.
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Old 8th November 2004, 07:58 PM   (permalink)
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Hi there, I've read about the implementation of transformerless AC/DC converter. Not implementing this in the project, just want to ask something this form of AC/DC converter.

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the microchip site has a transformerless powersupply design ,but it is anly good for a few mA..that the PICs use..
did u order your PIC ?
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Old 8th November 2004, 08:05 PM   (permalink)
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the microchip site has a transformerless powersupply design ,but it is anly good for a few mA..that the PICs use..
did u order your PIC ?
Thanks, I will read up more from there.

About the PIC microcontroller, I can only get them this Friday as my class ends late today and late as well for tomorrow. Thursday is a public holiday here. I'll be getting a unit of 16F648A and a unit of 16F628. Thanks...
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Old 8th November 2004, 10:19 PM   (permalink)
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the microchip site has a transformerless powersupply design ,but it is anly good for a few mA..that the PICs use..
did u order your PIC ?
Thanks, I will read up more from there.

About the PIC microcontroller, I can only get them this Friday as my class ends late today and late as well for tomorrow. Thursday is a public holiday here. I'll be getting a unit of 16F648A and a unit of 16F628. Thanks...
you are going to need to get a programer , or make one --find a nice parallel programer..
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Old 9th November 2004, 05:50 PM   (permalink)
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As shown is the circuit I intend to use for my one of my charging circuitry for the battery where the source is from a solar panel.

The input of this circuit, the solar panel, will not be the one seen or tested earlier, which is one with low output current.

Would like to ask the following questions:

a.) How do I determine the appropriate value of the capacitor as well as the inductor? Can I use approximately 10 microFarad for the capacitor? As for the inductor, is approximately 100 miliHenry an appropriate value?

b.) Issit advisable to include a zener diode in parallel with the Load as well as the capacitor?

c.) Should I boost to a voltage level of 15V for charging purposes in this circuit?

d.) With an approximate current value of 40mA, power output of 0.3W, voltage output of 7.5V, can this circuit be operated?

Need advice...Thanks a lot...

Sorry for not including the arrows to denote the flow of current...
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Old 9th November 2004, 06:17 PM   (permalink)
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As shown is the circuit I intend to use for my one of my charging circuitry for the battery where the source is from a solar panel.

The input of this circuit, the solar panel, will not be the one seen or tested earlier, which is one with low output current.

Would like to ask the following questions:

a.) How do I determine the appropriate value of the capacitor as well as the inductor? Can I use approximately 10 microFarad for the capacitor? As for the inductor, is approximately 100 miliHenry an appropriate value?

b.) Issit advisable to include a zener diode in parallel with the Load as well as the capacitor?

c.) Should I boost to a voltage level of 15V for charging purposes in this circuit?

d.) With an approximate current value of 40mA, power output of 0.3W, voltage output of 7.5V, can this circuit be operated?

Need advice...Thanks a lot...
what is the "clock pulse" ??
if it a switch .. why not just use a switch..???
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