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Old 25th August 2009, 10:48 AM   #16
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Usually the warnings about dangerous and/or illegal devices, is a gentle way of saying this isn't a terrorist-friendly website. Perhaps the OP doesn't plan on doing any real harm to anyone, except himself, but his circuitry will be found all over the internet.

I am kind of trollish when it involves harming and torturing animals, or pet owners, who think they are going to do something nice, but aren't. Most recently, a guy wanted to hook up a huge fan in his truck, to blow air on his dogs, while he worked. He was also from Florida, so I know it's hot, and how much help a fan would really be. Was just bad for the dogs, just so he could circumvent the law about leaving pets in a vehicle without circulating air.

Experience members not post as much? Perhaps they are working on their own project (for a change). Sometimes people need to focus more on other things. The internet isn't usually everyone's highest priority.

Six months? You've missed some good fights and arguments. Really isn't that big of a deal, and it's healthy for people to vent their anger, or express their opinions passionately. It's only words on a computer screen, no real harm is done, and we always have the option of not clicking the link when we've read enough. The words only carry whatever power the reader chooses to give them. You don't have to be offended by anything you read.
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Old 25th August 2009, 04:52 PM   #17
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Thanks for the feed back!
Seriously this helps me sort out some questions I had.

What can I say I get a mood going once and awhile and dont realize it carries over and affects others around me as well.
It would appear my bad week of work affected how I interact with everyone here more than I realized at the time.

Now that more background information has been shown in regards to other members I see now I am not the only one who has had some more recent rough times.

I dish it out so it only fair I had to take it back for good or bad.
I will lighten up a bit more myself and go from there.
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Old 25th August 2009, 05:08 PM   #18
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I'm trollish when it comes to certain types of posts...

Poster with little to no experience wants to build from zero a finished product that's also available as a retail product because they think it'll be cheaper...

eg: UPS, police lights

I respond with "just buy it" of course if the OP wants to learn then they have to walk before they can run.

When the project has letal potential

eg: UPS, Grid Tie Inverter (especially so as it can kill someone else), Transformerless mains supplies

I often wonder what happened to the hapless toadies that build HV stuff and are never heard from again.

Idiot projects with questionable motives.

eg: Remote detonator, cell phone blocker, destructive to other peoples property

They tend to disappear after a post or two

Poster can disprove science because those silly scientists / government are full of lies

eg: Overunity, HHO, Bendini, perpetual motion

Mostly folks with a little self taught practical knowledge but none of the actual theory.

Poster is probably crazy, missing their medication.

eg: 6ekiN, sretlaW, achcetsM

They usually find themselves banned after a short while, they are fun to read though.

Almost left out my favorite:
Final year school projects where the poster has no clue and/or has put in zero effort on their part.


Fail. Is it really OK to pass off someone elses project as your own. Somebody has to flip burgers.

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Old 25th August 2009, 05:57 PM   #19
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I entirely agree. Most of these categories of questions should be simply removed. In particular there seem to be an increasing number of people with questions like "i nd prjct due in 3 dyz, cn u do it 4 me?". I much prefer the other type of project questions, the ones which go "My project is due in 4 months and I'm stuck on this particular component... here's what I've got so far"
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Old 25th August 2009, 10:23 PM   #20
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I helped some one with a project did most of the code sent them all the parts they needed to put it together. I figured they learn something wrong . I learned a lot.

Boys a forums going to be a place to slap back after all it's just a key board and the net no ones going to hit you threw your LCD LOL so people will do some dumb things.

You can't fix stupid. We just need to post helpful replies
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Old 25th August 2009, 11:38 PM   #21
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You can't fix stupid, but it's got to be worth not helping people be stupid. Can't help but return to the "help me destroy something without the owner noticising" thread where a few of us were more or less in agreement not to help the OP do something illegal, and then someone comes up with a suggestion which would destroy the device, have a high risk of causing serious injury, and/or starting a fire...

Questions which are so blatantly illegal should be removed by moderators.
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Old 25th August 2009, 11:52 PM   #22
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It is easy to say we should do this or we should do that but if you
care about helping people you sometimes need to look past the first
post.

Would you like fries with that ?

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Old 25th August 2009, 11:53 PM   #23
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Where would we be if they had rules
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Although electricity was just a hobby for Ben Franklin, he made many important contributions. Later scientists, like Michael Faraday and Thomas A. Edison, continued to study electricity using many of Ben's ideas. Even today, scientists are still studying electricity and learning more about it. They've learned that all citizens need to practice good safety habits, since electricity can be very dangerous. Ben Franklin would be amazed at how important his stormy kite flight really was!
In the dark lol
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Old 26th August 2009, 12:12 AM   #24
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It is easy to say we should do this or we should do that but if you
care about helping people you sometimes need to look past the first
post.
True, but when the next post is no less insane, or when the OP doesn't actually bother to make another post or acknowledge the help and suggestions made by other posters, it can feel like a waste of effort sometimes.
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Old 26th August 2009, 12:55 AM   #25
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I prefer to let the persons common sense and stupidity fight it out for who ultimatly wins.
Either way the persons problem/s get solved!

If they dont have brains enough to not take their live toaster in the bathtub with them do we really want to have that person running loose anyway?
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Old 26th August 2009, 01:41 AM   #26
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Where would we be if they had rules

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Although electricity was just a hobby for Ben Franklin, he made many important contributions. Later scientists, like Michael Faraday and Thomas A. Edison, continued to study electricity using many of Ben's ideas. Even today, scientists are still studying electricity and learning more about it. They've learned that all citizens need to practice good safety habits, since electricity can be very dangerous. Ben Franklin would be amazed at how important his stormy kite flight really was!

In the dark lol
Hate when people leave out Nikola Tesla...
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Old 26th August 2009, 02:29 AM   #27
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That's because he was a EE And people that thought they new more left him out
You know I'm right your wrong . After all he just added to work that had been done.
I'm glade he came up with Ac Ac motors electrical transmission of power

I don't think he made his peers happy with all them patents

He may of done more then the rest but your right he always left out
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Old 26th August 2009, 07:49 AM   #28
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Would you like fries with that ?
3VO, you always bring up this line that I used some time ago. Come on the guy wanted schematics, PCB, and explanation of theory. He had it coming. I am not sure why this comment annoyed you so much, but I have not made such comments for a very long time. How many more hail Mary's must I recite before this is forgotten?
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Old 26th August 2009, 07:51 AM   #29
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I thought this thread was supposed to be about PC, trolls and experience.

The way the thread has drifted in the last few posts is inferring that if a post falls within the critera listed by some of the members, then its OK to be offensive and/or post silly comments.

As its be said so many times before, if you dont like a thread or post then ignore it, you are not obliged to answer it.!

As some members have already stated, when the OP or any other member posts a potentially dangerous idea, then it should be challenged.
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Old 26th August 2009, 08:05 AM   #30
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I thought this thread was supposed to be about PC, trolls and experience.

The way the thread has drifted in the last few posts is inferring that if a post falls within the critera listed by some of the members, then its OK to be offensive and/or post silly comments.

As its be said so many times before, if you dont like a thread or post then ignore it, you are not obliged to answer it.!

As some members have already stated, when the OP or any other member posts a potentially dangerous idea, then it should be challenged.
Agreed. A friend of mine once noted: "I have a theory that you only get a limited number of Argument Points per day. Every time you argue, you use up some points. So I try to spend mine where they're important."

It's easy to get stuck arguing against useless ideas. Heaven knows I've done it (anybody remember my pointless back-and-forth with bigkim1000? My apologies for that, by the way).

Some things need to be argued. Others just aren't worth it. I'm still learning this. If somebody wants to do something which is basically just stupid and won't be dissuaded, I figure "what the hell--let them". If someone wants to do something which could endanger someone, then maybe that needs to be argued against.


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