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Old 27th October 2009, 01:58 AM   #1
Default Fourier transform and Laplace transform

I'm not very sure if this is the right forum to post this, but didn't find a better one.

I would like to know if the Fourier transform can always be achieved by finding the Laplace transform, I'm asking because I find in a Signals & Systems book, a problem that said Find the Fourier transform using the Laplace transform, well, actually it was the solution manual, and what they did was find the Laplace transform and change S for jω. Is that always possible?
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Old 28th October 2009, 10:56 PM   #2
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Yes, from what I can remember my studies in differential equations, about 20 years ago.
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Old 29th October 2009, 01:12 AM   #3
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well most of the time but not always because for example laplace transform of the step frunction is 1/s evaluating at s=0+j*2*pi*f but that wont give you the right trans form value. the unit step transform is 1/(j2pi*f)+(1/2)delta(f)

Also i was wondering if any one knew the transform of sinc(t)u(t)
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Old 29th October 2009, 02:50 AM   #4
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Thanks for the answer, but the unit step transfomr is not 1/jω + πδ(ω)?

But anyway you're right, it is not always the same, is that the only case you know? because if there are more, then is not a very sure thing to do.
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Old 29th October 2009, 03:00 AM   #5
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i thought that was the the transform for unit step . thats what my book says ..........
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Old 29th October 2009, 03:48 AM   #6
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I don't have a book here but I looked it up in the web and I found it that way in two sites, and nonde of them is wikipedia.
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Old 29th October 2009, 04:14 AM   #7
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well most of the time but not always because for example laplace transform of the step frunction is 1/s evaluating at s=0+j*2*pi*f but that wont give you the right trans form value. the unit step transform is 1/(j2pi*f)+(1/2)delta(f)

Also i was wondering if any one knew the transform of sinc(t)u(t)
I think its rect(w)

Fourier transform have a property called duality, which basically means that if you have
if the following is a transform pair s(t)<-->S(w) then S(t)<--> s(w).

The fourier transform of a rect pulse is a sinc function, so by duality, a sinc funtion would have a rect as its fourier transform.
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Old 29th October 2009, 04:31 AM   #8
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well u can derive it for unit pulse

u know that transform of delta is 1 and derivative of unit pulse is delta
so by integration rule
taking integral of delta
integral of g(t) transforms to (G(f)/(j2*pi*f)) + ((G(0))/2 )*delta(f)
now for
values of G(F) and G(0) are 1 because delta transforms to 1 so thas how i got that equation


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i dont want sinc (t)
i want transform of sinc(t)u(t)
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Old 29th October 2009, 05:06 AM   #9
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also i just wana check if i am getting duality right
g(t) <--->G(f)
and g'(t) <----> j2*pi*f*G(f)
so is t *G(t) =j g'(f)

*= multiplication not convolution ...
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Old 29th October 2009, 05:06 AM   #10
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sorry = j*f*G(f)
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Old 8th November 2009, 02:59 PM   #11
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The fourier and laplace transform are pretty much the same thing except σ is nonzero when talking about "laplace" transforms . Fourier transform is laplace evaluated with σ=0.

Fourier transform is the jω axis of the laplace transform. If you "draw" the laplace space. And only take a look at the slice which goes along the jω axis then that is the fourier "space".

Fourier transformation is only a "thin slice" (the jω axis) from the s plane. Stable systems contain laplace transforms that converge on the jω axis and thus have a fourier transforms assuming dirichlet conditions are fullfilled. If you have a laplace transform for a stable system. You can simply put σ=0 and volla you have your fourier transform.

Keep in mind that S = σ + jω. So puting σ=0 you have.....jω .
You can only do this for systems that have laplace transforms that converge for the jω axis.

Last edited by steinar96; 8th November 2009 at 03:40 PM.
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Old 8th November 2009, 09:21 PM   #12
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That was the answer I was looking for, thank you very much steinar96, and the other posters too.
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