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Old 18th July 2009, 04:58 AM   #1
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for this signal
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I_s(t)=sin(t)<br />
i have this equation
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I_L(1-CL+jCR+jcz)=I_s<br />
then the next line is
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I_L(1-CL+jCR+jcz)=j<br />

why they substitute j=I_s
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Old 18th July 2009, 06:21 AM   #2
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put in your mind that j = 90 Deg
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Old 18th July 2009, 06:53 AM   #3
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no j=\sqrt{-1}

its not 90 deg

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Old 18th July 2009, 07:37 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by transgalactic View Post
for this signal
<br />
I_s(t)=sin(t)<br />
i have this equation
<br />
I_L(1-CL+jCR+jcz)=I_s<br />
then the next line is
<br />
I_L(1-CL+jCR+jcz)=j<br />

why they substitute j=I_s
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sin(t)=cos(\frac{\pi}{2}-t)=cos(t-\frac{\pi}{2})<br />
the formula of the signal is
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Is=Acos(\omega t+\phi)<br />
then we transform it to the phasor representation formula
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Is=Ae^{j\phi}<br />
so we get
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Is=1e^{-j\frac{\pi}{2}}<br />
and when we look at this expression as oilers formula we get
the Is=-j

so why its written Is=j
?

Last edited by transgalactic; 18th July 2009 at 07:38 AM.
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Old 18th July 2009, 08:37 AM   #5
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Hi,

Isnt that just j*w with w=1?
sin(t) is sin(w*t) or sin(1*t).

For ac analysis, s is made equal to j*w
and j*w is used to represent a sinusoidal source.

Last edited by MrAl; 18th July 2009 at 03:18 PM.
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Old 19th July 2009, 06:01 AM   #6
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no j=\sqrt{-1}
and it is 90 deg


for example:

2j = 2 at angle of 90 deg
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Old 19th July 2009, 06:06 AM   #7
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by what formula?
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Old 19th July 2009, 10:28 AM   #8
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by what formula?
without formula it is well known in Electrical engineering that the difference between 2 which means ( 2 ± 0j ) and 2j which means ( 0 + 2j ), is that although they are representing the same magnitude, but the are 90 deg apart. If you added them together, they gives 2 + 2j in rectangular form , which equals to 2.83 with 45 deg or in polar form.

complex number is explained in:

Complex Number -- from Wolfram MathWorld

check Euler formula link, you may find the answer for your problem.
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