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Old 18th July 2009, 03:17 PM   #16
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Hi again,


What did you end up with?
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Old 18th July 2009, 04:08 PM   #17
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i just got to the conclusion that whenever i have a
f(t) as a source then i should use this integral method
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:47 AM   #18
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Hello again,


Oh well i thought we knew that solution already?
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Old 19th July 2009, 05:50 AM   #19
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yes
we knew

so i got to the conclusion that whenever i have
an undefined source
then i will be doing that integral subtraction way

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Old 21st July 2009, 10:35 AM   #20
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Hi again,


I think i remember the solution now, but you'll need to use Z transforms for this
to make any sense to you. I hope you have had at least an introduction, but
if not it will have to wait for a later time.

Here is the rationale:

In a sampled system, z^-1 can be interpreted as a delay in the signal
such as f(t)*z^-1. Since in the problem we have to subtract f(t) from
it's own delayed version f(t-1) delayed by exactly 1, we can write the
solution to the sampled system like this:
f(t)*1-f(t)*z^-1

or simply:
f(t)*(1-z^-1)

(we also need to integrate BTW).

Now if we find the continuous time expression of this we get a new time expression,
and i bet you already guessed what it is (he he):

Intg f(t)*(1-z^1) dt=Intg[t-1 to t] f(t) dt

In other words, in the sampled time domain when we subtract a function delayed by 1
from the original function, we get f(t)*(1-z^-1), which is equivalent to the
continuous time domain Intg[t-1 to t] f(t) dt (after an integration).
So this should prove that that integral shown in the problem is correct.

It's been a while since i looked at these theoretical topics, so there may be some
limits as to the range or type of functions that this works for, but i would bet that
the linear functions work with this idea.

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