Electronic Projects, forums and more.

Go Back   Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free > Electronic Content > Electronic Theory


Electronic Theory Basic principles, ideas, concepts, laws, and formulas behind electronics.

Reply
 
Tools
Old 16th March 2007, 03:58 AM   #31
Default

1cm a second? Where'd you come up with that random number?
__________________
"Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I
could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a
straight answer, har har."
Sceadwian is online now  
Old 16th March 2007, 02:55 PM   #32
Default

1cm/s. Right, that's that all cleared up then. I don't suppose you happen also to know the speed of water molecules in a pipe?

Last edited by Cabwood; 16th March 2007 at 02:59 PM.
Cabwood is offline  
Old 16th March 2007, 02:58 PM   #33
Default

I'm just really pleased I moved this silly thread to the Chit Chat forum!
__________________
PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at:
http://www.winpicprog.co.uk
Nigel Goodwin is offline  
Old 16th March 2007, 04:10 PM   #34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin
I'm just really pleased I moved this silly thread to the Chit Chat forum!
After reading some of your posts I wouldnŽt expect anything different from you.

The Super Moderator calling this thread a silly thread

Next think I expect from you is to throw me out of this forum

IŽll be pleased if you do so

(My last post as long as you are the moderator)
__________________
Luis German
luisgerman is offline  
Old 16th March 2007, 04:33 PM   #35
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moderator
This thread is silly
Quote:
Originally Posted by whinerman
:cry: I don't like what you just said. I'm leaving! :cry:
__________________

I do not answer private messages asking for help because no one else can: benefit from advice I may give or correct me if I'm wrong.

Please ask on the open forum if you have a question and I'll be happy to help,
if I know the answer.
Hero999 is offline  
Old 17th March 2007, 03:03 AM   #36
Default

As long as it's actually in the chit-chat forum now I don't feel so bad about leaving one sentance pointless replys.
__________________
"Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I
could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a
straight answer, har har."
Sceadwian is online now  
Old 24th September 2007, 12:48 AM   #37
Default

Current measured in amps, 1amp = 1Coulum/1sec. 1 coulum = 6.25X10^18Electrons.
__________________
NeoMach
NeoMach is offline  
Old 11th December 2007, 09:46 PM   #38
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by earjun
Wait before we close the discussion now the drift velocity is very small...but the moment we switch on things start working which are connected by copper wires covering long distance can someone explain this?
The usual analogy is a hose that's already full of electrons....er...water. When new water comes in one end, old water immediately comes out the other due to the interactions of the water molecules (but, not instantly. There is a propagation delay for the effect to travel through the hose). The actual water travels slowly but pressure changes propagate rapidly.
crashsite is offline  
Old 13th December 2007, 02:43 AM   #39
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keruskerfuerst
Speed of electrons in a wire: 1cm/s.
THat number sounds familiar to me. I think we came up across it in my second electromagnetics class. Except I think it was more like 2-3cm/s. I forget how we calculated it.
dknguyen is offline  
Old 9th January 2008, 11:24 PM   #40
Default

according to einstein's laws e[v+phase ]=hc where e=electron charge =1.6x10-19 coulombs phase=work function in volts =6.6x10-34 joule/sec c=velocity of light=3x10+10 so now do your math.ephase=hc/lanbda=12000 armstrong units of course thiese are photons emissions.
neon is offline  
Old 10th January 2008, 03:34 AM   #41
Default

Eye Captain, I'm givin you all shes got, at this rate she is sure to blow at any moment.


Lefty
__________________
Measurement changes behavior
Leftyretro is offline  
Old 10th January 2008, 03:41 AM   #42
Default

~4cm/s if I remember correctly
__________________
"Everything that is done in the world is done by hope." -Martin Luther
"There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."-Albert Einstein
Analog is offline  
Old 10th January 2008, 04:41 AM   #43
Default

See: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/ohmmic.html

In brief, the citation assumes a physical model in which each atom of copper has one mobile electron. There are so many atoms in a wire with a diameter of 1 mm that the wire can pass 1 A with a very low drift velocity.

For example, the aforementioned wire has 6.62X10E20 copper atoms per lineal cm. Assuming one mobile electron per atom, that is equivalent to approximately 100 coulombs of mobile electrons per cm. Thus, a current of 10 A would have a drift velocity of only 1 mm/sec. Of course, that conclusion is dependent on the validity of the assumed number of mobile electrons per atom that are involved during conduction. John
jpanhalt is offline  
Old 24th September 2008, 05:13 PM   #44
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero999 View Post
...but electricity generally flows through wires at a lower speed than the speed of light....
Taking this into consideration, if I hooked up each end of a wire one light minute long [according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-minute, the average distance from the Earth to the Sun (or 1 astronomical unit) is about 8.317 light-minutes] to an AC source having a half cycle of one minute, would the wire carry electricity?
jasonbe is offline  
Old 24th September 2008, 06:39 PM   #45
Default

O.K. i just have had a look at this thread it is a mixture of scientific and silly discussion, any way I think it was earjun who asked that "How an electron get to the destination as soon as we turn on the switch, the destination being at very far?" and there was the answer from luisgerman explaining about electromagantic wave and that stuff ( all these on page 1 of the thread).......
Well I'm not a genius but this is what I was tought in school, an electron enters into conductor from negative terminal of source and at the same time one electron gets out of the conductor at the other end being pulled by positive terminal of the source.Look at the Doc,
If an electron actually travels THROUGH the conductor than that would change the whole atomic structure of the conductor (COPPER), The image explains why the electricity reaches to destination as soon as the switch is closed.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Elctron conduction.pdf (24.3 KB, 11 views)
__________________
CHRIS

Last edited by c36041254; 24th September 2008 at 06:41 PM.
c36041254 is offline  
Reply

Tags
electron, velocity

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar
Title Starter Forum Replies Latest
Voltage ElectroMaster Electronic Theory 44 8th August 2007 06:35 PM
how to identify the layouts in a die seen 4rm electron microscope? monica_mit8 General Electronics Chat 3 19th January 2007 09:34 AM
Just the basic but not simple: Control velocity of DC motor. wonbinbk General Electronics Chat 1 1st May 2005 11:46 PM
controlling velocity zika1212 Micro Controllers 3 25th May 2004 10:49 PM
velocity and direction control lepton Robotics Chat 0 18th November 2003 01:00 PM



All times are GMT. The time now is 05:08 AM.


Electronic Circuits  |  Learning Electronics
eXTReMe Tracker