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sheldonstv · 8th June 2009, 05:51 PM

Heres a simple gated oscillator for you to play with,its nothing complicated build wise but does give an insight as to how rs latches can be used(for switch debounce) and gating a simple osc. on or off....you can play around with the component values if you wish and the output transistor you could flash an led or control a relay etc or feed the signal to the clk ip on a counter(4017 etc)
regards mike

JBrock · 11th June 2009, 07:16 PM

I like it. I am very curious; what software did you use to create the schematic?

Here are my impressions:
> You should label the switch positions. All those NANDS get confusing. It looks like it is shown in the "OFF" position.
> I assume you have tested it, but you did not state that.
> Why would you use a transistor and pull-up for a clock? The output of the CMOS device U1D is active high and low with better characteristics.
> Where in the world do you get a 33k pot!?
> That oscillator has some weak properties. You could build a better one using two gates.
> What's up with all the connection dots? They are only needed where wires meet, not on component pins.
> Add a bubble to indicate the +12V connection.

Thanks for the contribution.

BrownOut · 15th June 2009, 05:43 AM

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That oscillator has some weak properties.

Like what?

JBrock · 15th June 2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrownOut

Like what?

The cap charges only through the range of the hysteresis band on the input of the gate. This results in poor frequency stability and little repeatability across different manufacturers. The frequency cannot be calculated with any accuracy. Almost any desirable characteristic is lacking, other than low component count. This oscillator is definitely in the Mickey-Mouse league of electrical design.

sheldonstv · 16th June 2009, 10:10 AM

the circuit software was circuitmaker 6 which does that connection wise on components where my copy of designworks is different and doesnt do that so much, the 33k preset was one of many wyhich i have lying around ...and i have used that type of osc for many different things and yes the circuit does work its been built and tested....the spdt switch is actually in the off position-in that position the osc is disabled -I had an instance once where a 555 had a very short life when directly connected to a 4017 clk ip (for some reason)and adding an extra transistor cured it,this particular schematic isnt designed to be super fantastic but it does work and quite a few items out there use that sort of osc.....dont be scared of the 4093.....

Hero999 · 16th June 2009, 08:19 PM

It depends on what you're using it for.

If all you want to do is flash an LED then I don't see any harm in using it.

BrownOut · 16th June 2009, 08:44 PM

I still don't know how using two gates solves the shortcommings.

sheldonstv · 17th July 2009, 01:30 AM

the second gate on the output side of the osc ensures the output transister would be off as when the osc is disabled the output goes hi.....

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8th June 2009, 05:51 PM	#1
sheldonstv	Simple gated oscillator Heres a simple gated oscillator for you to play with,its nothing complicated build wise but does give an insight as to how rs latches can be used(for switch debounce) and gating a simple osc. on or off....you can play around with the component values if you wish and the output transistor you could flash an led or control a relay etc or feed the signal to the clk ip on a counter(4017 etc) regards mike Attached Thumbnails __________________ all "txt speak" has been removed from this post for the benefit of all other forum members who may get confused!!! Last edited by ElectroMaster; 17th July 2009 at 04:32 AM.

11th June 2009, 07:16 PM	#2
JBrock	I give it a B+ ! I like it. I am very curious; what software did you use to create the schematic? Here are my impressions: > You should label the switch positions. All those NANDS get confusing. It looks like it is shown in the "OFF" position. > I assume you have tested it, but you did not state that. > Why would you use a transistor and pull-up for a clock? The output of the CMOS device U1D is active high and low with better characteristics. > Where in the world do you get a 33k pot!? > That oscillator has some weak properties. You could build a better one using two gates. > What's up with all the connection dots? They are only needed where wires meet, not on component pins. > Add a bubble to indicate the +12V connection. Thanks for the contribution.

16th June 2009, 10:10 AM	#5
sheldonstv	the circuit software was circuitmaker 6 which does that connection wise on components where my copy of designworks is different and doesnt do that so much, the 33k preset was one of many wyhich i have lying around ...and i have used that type of osc for many different things and yes the circuit does work its been built and tested....the spdt switch is actually in the off position-in that position the osc is disabled -I had an instance once where a 555 had a very short life when directly connected to a 4017 clk ip (for some reason)and adding an extra transistor cured it,this particular schematic isnt designed to be super fantastic but it does work and quite a few items out there use that sort of osc.....dont be scared of the 4093..... __________________ all "txt speak" has been removed from this post for the benefit of all other forum members who may get confused!!! Last edited by sheldonstv; 16th June 2009 at 10:18 AM.

16th June 2009, 08:19 PM	#6
Hero999	It depends on what you're using it for. If all you want to do is flash an LED then I don't see any harm in using it. __________________ I do not answer private messages asking for help because no one else can: benefit from advice I may give or correct me if I'm wrong. Please ask on the open forum if you have a question and I'll be happy to help, if I know the answer.

16th June 2009, 08:44 PM	#7
BrownOut	I still don't know how using two gates solves the shortcommings.

17th July 2009, 01:30 AM	#8
sheldonstv	the second gate on the output side of the osc ensures the output transister would be off as when the osc is disabled the output goes hi..... __________________ all "txt speak" has been removed from this post for the benefit of all other forum members who may get confused!!!