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Old 1st November 2009, 10:45 AM   #16
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He is more clever than me for assuming that; I didn't mean to state the obvious.
Maybe I didn't understand that, but who is more clever than you?
I didn't assume that Netguru was going to put the diodes there, I didn't realized what you did about the HIGH in one output was going to turn ON the two LEDs.

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a pull-up usually pulls an input high; a pull-down usually pulls an input low. It keeps the input in a defined state when it's not being driven by another source. The 10k resistor inline with the switch in your circuit does nothing until the switch is turned on.
Yes itdoes not do nothing, but the CLOCK will be low anyway, because closing the switch will give a HIGH level, coming from Vcc 'cause the transistor is cut-off, by the way, when you have an open collector in a gate, for example, you need a pull up resistor, not to pull the output high but to complete the arrangement of the internal transistor, that thing over there with the BJT is a NOT gate, if the 10K resistor wasn't there would be happening the same that if you had a NOT with open collector and you don't use the pull up resistor, so as I see it that's a pull up, I agree with you that's not a pull down, but do you think it needs it?
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Old 2nd November 2009, 01:25 AM   #17
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I just got back home and I wanted to say Thanks to Karkas and dougy83 for taking time out to help me. This is exactly what I need to start and I sincerely appreciate this information. Thanks again
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Old 2nd November 2009, 02:23 AM   #18
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I hope it works out how you wanted. All the best.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 08:09 PM   #19
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Hi Netguru,
Tell me if you can put the diodes, or if you need me to post the image with them.
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