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Old 2nd November 2009, 10:53 AM   #16
Default I understood the op was haveing to use TTL only

the 4017 is perhaps the easiset way but the op mentioned only TTL.
or did I miss something.
the clock is to run at 40 hz, never recall a 2 second yellow?
now I is lost
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Old 2nd November 2009, 11:38 AM   #17
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for the circuit i posted i started with 2second pulse and decided the time as per convenient. if he uses 40Hz then has to use another step down to get 2sec.

he has used 74la163, in this case what we need is a logic high to tell "On green" another logic is to tell "off green" and "on yellow".

the same idea can work with above two signals together with another 74ls163 counter (as slave one in my circuit)and with some extra logic.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 02:41 PM   #18
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why all the extra IC's when just one 74ls74 will do the job??
unless I missed something.
IF the op can use a 4017 then this is a piece of cake
Want a delay (green and red stay on longer?) add a 74ls74 as a divide by 2
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Old 2nd November 2009, 06:42 PM   #19
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why all the extra IC's when just one 74ls74 will do the job??
unless I missed something.
IF the op can use a 4017 then this is a piece of cake
Want a delay (green and red stay on longer?) add a 74ls74 as a divide by 2
Mr.DEB,
did you consider he has to use 3x4 LEDs total to make all of them on and off like a real four junction signal light?? or what you are sugestion is only a single Red yellow and green??
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Old 2nd November 2009, 07:56 PM   #20
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I never saw where the op wanted 3x4 LEDs
I proposed using separate RED, YELLOW, GREEN LEDs
no real different though???
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Old 3rd November 2009, 05:18 AM   #21
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I never saw where the op wanted 3x4 LEDs
I proposed using separate RED, YELLOW, GREEN LEDs
no real different though???
you can see his second posting..he has mentioned R1,Y1, G1......G4, total of 12 LEDs. also it has to work in such a way not independent, i mean at a time only one green or one yellow should be on. just go through what he mentioned on that post.

if we use seperate LEDs how will you wire your diagram to fit for the requirement??

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Old 3rd November 2009, 05:57 AM   #22
Default simplified schematic

as per the ops first post this schematic meets all the requirements.
at least the way I read the ops post
has 3 leds per signal with 4 signals
only TTLs are used. nothing fancy, just down to earth simple D flip flops.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 06:42 AM   #23
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you have used R1,R2,R3& R4 in two places???? also in real practice, R,Y&G s will not have same mark space ratio. see the op, he has mentioned to keep the green "on" for 3 state changes and to keep the yellow for only one??

the timing diagram i posted is the one for all LEDs how it has to be sequenced for a real implementation, i hope your diagram will not fit for the timing circuit.

what will be your circuit to follow the timing diagram??
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Old 3rd November 2009, 10:59 AM   #24
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would love to thanks mbarazeen, MrDEB, Sceadwian and kpatz.

thank you so much for helping.
and for the circuit and timing diagrams.
these really helped me a lot in my project.
and i realized more through this discussion

the project finally work well =P
i am soo happy and glad.

thank you everybody =)

edit : i learned a lot from you guys. things that i don't learn in school =)
glad that i bumped into this forum =P
p/s : i am a girl by the way =P

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Old 3rd November 2009, 12:05 PM   #25
Default have looked but no mention of 2 sec on etc?

Only thing I saw was for a 40hz clock using a 555
I posted a circuit last night that lacked a few connections.
Maybe I missed something but never saw any reference to green on for 20 seconds while yellow on for 2 seconds.
Unless its in that truth table which was very unclear.
I still like the 4017 idea, then just add some divide by two D flip flops if you want the yellows on less.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 03:17 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by reila View Post
would love to thanks mbarazeen, MrDEB, Sceadwian and kpatz.

thank you so much for helping.
and for the circuit and timing diagrams.
these really helped me a lot in my project.
and i realized more through this discussion

the project finally work well =P
i am soo happy and glad.

thank you everybody =)

edit : i learned a lot from you guys. things that i don't learn in school =)
glad that i bumped into this forum =P
p/s : i am a girl by the way =P
oooooooooops, :P he he...so sory to mention as "he"
no matter boy or girl, its our pleasure to share and learn
its really making happy to know u got it worked finally. congrads.

Mr.DEB was continously replying to me, it really encouraged me to write more.

for his last post,
he has used 16 LEDs on the circuit that is, 4 extra??
and he missed a point to consider real world application, still he can work out and get it done using 74ls74 instead of 4017, bythe way 4017 it self having 4 flip flops and some logic built in.

if i will find enough time i will post a circuit for the same as my timing diagram using 74ls74 only with some logics.

thanks a lot to you all guys.

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Old 3rd November 2009, 03:58 PM   #27
Default I agree, the 4017 is perfect but

SHE, the op wanted to use only 74ls family.
using the 7474, plus some additional components, it can be done.
16 LEDs? pretty sure I only have 12??
I didn't take my shoes off so must be only 12---lol
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