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Basically, what I need is a way to turn a cheap potentiometer into a large wattage rheostat. The difficulty here is that there is no separate power supply. It must take power from the circuit. (e.g. as if it were a rheostat with 2 pins) The "rheostat" needs to be able to handle 20 watts, and vary from about 0-20 ohms. One requirement is that there can't be much drift. If it is set at something, it should stay there +/- 15% at most. Even with changes in temperature in any active elements. Suggestions on how to proceed? | |
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I would not want to pretend to know the best solution, but this sounds like you could use a power BJT in the linear region. If you connect the gate to the power trough a resistor in series with your pot, then it should act nearly as a larger pot with a bit of a dead zone at the bottom. Well, and also only work for on current direction. ![]() Please wait for someone more knowledgeable than me to confirm though, as I am still slightly unconfortable with BJTs. As a side remark you will never get a perfect 0 with any transistor. | |
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SuperFrog posted his while I was working on mine. All plotted vs resistance of R1 (the pot) Blue=Dissipation in the Pot (i.e 1W Pot) Lt Blue=Effective resistance of the network Purple=Dissipation in R3 Green=Voltage across the network Red=Dissipation in the 3055
__________________ Mike ML. | |
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Thanks! I'd like to get the potentiometer into the 250mw range or less though. Can I use a darlington to decrease the base current? And how stable are BJT's with respect to temperature? If I set this circuit to "10 ohms" when it's room temp (25C) and everything heats up to 80C, how will that effect the circuit? | |
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__________________ Mike ML. | |
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| The gain of a BJT varies significantly with temperature (typically >30% from 25C to 125C), thus you would need a large heat-sink to minimize the transistor temperature change, for MikeMl's circuit to work within your limits.
__________________ Carl Curmudgeon Elektroniker | |
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I would have thought a power MOSFET, voltage controlled at the gate by the bias of the potentiometer and a series resistor, current limited at the D-S, would be a good solution. Do you guys care to expand on why the BJT is better? Pros, cons. | |
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Other than an opamp with a separate supply, can this problem even be solved? | ||
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The main problem with a MOSFET is that they typical take several volts to start turning on. That means your resistor wouldn't start conducting until the voltage reached at least the MOSFET gate threshold voltage. A bipolar transistor only takes about 0.65V to start turning on so it would start conducting at a much lower voltage than a MOSFET.
__________________ Carl Curmudgeon Elektroniker Last edited by crutschow; 24th October 2009 at 04:27 AM. | |
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If you are just dimming a 12V lamp, then a 2 wire PWM dimmer can be built like this: EDN Access--10.23.97 Two-wire dc lamp dimmer replaces rheostats Not a very good image but you can find a better one if that is what you are after. What exactly are you trying to "control" with the rheostat?
__________________ Inside every little problem, is a big problem trying to get out. Last edited by kchriste; 24th October 2009 at 06:09 AM. | |
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